HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 5 February , 2006 Share Posted 5 February , 2006 I recently purchased a bundle of documents @ a local Car Boot sale;which included a sibling Collection of Certificates awarded for Attendance & Conduct @ London County Council board schools,for the War Years{1914~1919} The wording on the Certificates {9 in all} infers that the Normal awarding of Medals & Awards of Prizes,for School Work,Good conduct & attendance was suspended by the Council for the War Years. The Certificates were awarded to Eleanor,Wilfred,Cyril,Winifred & Charles Gatford,who attended St Michael's Schools{Infants,Boys,Girls};It seems strange that as the World entered into the Abyss & Medals were being granted on a scale never before seen,that the LCC decided to abandon its previous rewards scheme & replace it with Certificates {a sample of which are shown below} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swizz Posted 2 March , 2006 Share Posted 2 March , 2006 Those are great certificates! I have seen something similar at a school near Belfast where the prizewinning pupils appear to have given up their monetary prizes for the war effort and received a certificate instead to that effect. Made me wonder how voluntary their actions were! Swizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 9 March , 2006 Share Posted 9 March , 2006 I recently purchased a bundle of documents @ a local Car Boot sale;which included a sibling Collection of Certificates awarded for Attendance & Conduct @ London County Council board schools,for the War Years{1914~1919} The wording on the Certificates {9 in all} infers that the Normal awarding of Medals & Awards of Prizes,for School Work,Good conduct & attendance was suspended by the Council for the War Years. The Certificates were awarded to Eleanor,Wilfred,Cyril,Winifred & Charles Gatford,who attended St Michael's Schools{Infants,Boys,Girls};It seems strange that as the World entered into the Abyss & Medals were being granted on a scale never before seen,that the LCC decided to abandon its previous rewards scheme & replace it with Certificates {a sample of which are shown below} End of war austerity measures to go hand in hand with rationing and general feeling of " all in this together". It would have been thought to be bad form to celebrate at a time when there would have been a weekly roll call of FPs killed and wounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essexboy68 Posted 9 March , 2006 Share Posted 9 March , 2006 Folks I do not have access to the item as I store it in Essex (I am on IoM, where damp can be a problem), but here goes....... My grandfather was awarded a book (Rounding up the Raider, by Percy F Westerman or Westerham) as a school prize from East Ham Grammar School in 1917. So, they were awarding things the year before...... Cheers Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Hello, I carried out a google search on my father Cyril Gatford and a link to this post was forthcoming. As you can imagine, I was amazed to find this information. Eleanor, was my Aunt Nellie, Wilfred, My uncle Wilf, Cyril, My father Winifred my aunt Winnie Charles my uncle Charles All are now dead and I would love to have the certificates to add to my 'family archives' and would be very interested in knowing where the car boot sale was being held as I cannot understand how they would have left the family! Please contact me at tonygatford@hotmail.com Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 6 March , 2011 Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Harrybetts mcdcm Can you please contact me re the LCC certificates? tonygatford@hotmail.com thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 6 March , 2011 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2011 Hi Tony Goodness Me this was some time ago!! The Car Boot was IIRC in Wisbech Cambridgeshire from a House Clearance Dealer I think... I will contact you shortly HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 3 April , 2011 Share Posted 3 April , 2011 Hello HB, I'm not trying to be pushy - well I suppose I am! :-) I am still waiting to hear from you about the certificates. Regards, Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 3 April , 2011 Share Posted 3 April , 2011 It seems strange that as the World entered into the Abyss & Medals were being granted on a scale never before seen,that the LCC decided to abandon its previous rewards scheme & replace it with Certificates {a sample of which are shown below} Harry: You'll probably find that the replacement of school medals and trophies by certificates was due to a desire to conserve metal and also to draw a line between medals for courage and sacrifice and those for schoolwork. Yours, Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 3 April , 2011 Author Share Posted 3 April , 2011 Ive not forgotten,but I have them in Boxes {many,many} as I had to pack up my library where they were stored & as yet havent unpacked so have no idea exactly where they are I will contact as soon as I relocate them HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 1 December , 2011 Share Posted 1 December , 2011 Hello again HB, I was wondering if you have had any success in locating the certificates. Not having heard from you since April, I was hoping that you may have had some success.... Kind Regards Tony Gatford tonygatford@hotmail.com is my email address if it is easier for you to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnumbellum Posted 2 December , 2011 Share Posted 2 December , 2011 I recently purchased a bundle of documents @ a local Car Boot sale;which included a sibling Collection of Certificates awarded for Attendance & Conduct @ London County Council board schools,for the War Years{1914~1919} By defintion, London County Council schools were not Board schools. When public education was introduced in 1870, they were administered by locally elected School Boards. By 1902 it was accepted that this artificial separation of education from other municipal functions was wasteful and inefficient, and responsibility was transferred to relevant councils. The fact that in some respects the present government is attempting to turn the clock back to 1870 is a topic outside GWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 2 December , 2011 Share Posted 2 December , 2011 The fact that in some respects the present government is attempting to turn the clock back to 1870 is a topic outside GWF. Magnumbellum, With respect, I think that such comments should be avoided on this Forum. There are more suitable places available Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 15 December , 2011 Share Posted 15 December , 2011 To HB, Can you send me your email address so that we can avoid the spurious messages? Many thanks Tony Gatford tonygatford@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 22 March , 2012 Share Posted 22 March , 2012 Hello again Harry, Hello Harry, Can you please contact me about the cerificates? Thanks tonygatford@hotmail.com Ive not forgotten,but I have them in Boxes {many,many} as I had to pack up my library where they were stored & as yet havent unpacked so have no idea exactly where they are I will contact as soon as I relocate them HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 12 July , 2012 Share Posted 12 July , 2012 To Harry Betts Could you please contact me as I still very keen to be able to obtain these certificates as they would mean a great deal to the descendants of the original recipients. Many thanks. I can be contacted on tonygatford@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonygatford Posted 25 February , 2021 Share Posted 25 February , 2021 I don’t suppose you are still there, are you? I love to be in touch regarding the certificates. Above? regards, tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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