Guest C729LEE Posted 6 December , 2005 Share Posted 6 December , 2005 Chaps I cannot think where I read or heard it, but was there at sometime a contingency of men transferred from the Queens Regt to one particular battalion of the Linc R? A man that I am looking into was with the Queen's and moved to the Linc R - being given a number in the 40000. Am I right, or did I imagine this ? I think there was a similar movemnt with the Royal Scots. A fair amount of movement between regiments. Lee in Lincs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted 6 December , 2005 Share Posted 6 December , 2005 The topic concerned the Sussex Regiment............unless I missed one on the Queens? I know a collector of Queens and he has never mentioned this to me? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 6 December , 2005 Share Posted 6 December , 2005 Lee, I'm at work right now but will later attach the link discussing the transfer. If memory serves me right it was Lincs lads going into the Queens. The Lincs 40*** numbers are a little strange, but if you post your lad's Lincs number I'll pull what I have. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 6 December , 2005 Share Posted 6 December , 2005 If you search on the MICs with the regiment as "linc* AND Queen" and the number as 4???? , you get 175 men in the area of about number 42700 who transferred to (from?) the Queens Regiment with numbers 156xxx to 157xxx. Seems to be a batch.... Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 Stevs X2 & Jim It really is doing my head in - where did I see this snippet? I know about the Sussex and Lincs types {George Empringham's Plaque is part of my lot) I am at work too - 2/10 and nights who needs it and yesterday as well, and working 2/10 on days off - must be crackers. Anyway, the Chaps name was Frederick Wagstaff who went from the Queens to the Lincs, if an MIC is to be believed. I don't have his number to hand at present. I think they all went to one battalion - 6/7/8/Lincs. Deffo New Army. Ent pair BWM/VM. Number not to hand but 427*** rings a bell. I was trying to suss out where he was from. In time I'll get his papers looked for. What about the link to the Royal Scots - a batch of Lincs lads went over to them in 1917, it is believed. I'll post the full number when I get home. His full details will be posted among the MIC details that I am posting in the documents section. Thanks lads LEE Back to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 If you search on the MICs with the regiment as "linc* AND Queen" and the number as 4???? , you get 175 men in the area of about number 42700 who transferred to (from?) the Queens Regiment with numbers 156xxx to 157xxx. Seems to be a batch.... Steve. Steve With your London Gazette transcriptions and your variations and combinations, it would seem that you can work your way into any site. Cheers again for your help with that lot. LEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 Here we are 42763 Pte Frederick Wagstaff Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 The old thread (with the transfer going the opposite way) is here: Â This is the only thread I remember, but that's not saying too much.... Now to the transfer in question, selcetion below starts around 42714 with a lad called Martin and go through prob 42788, Woodgate Here's a little detail 42720 Morris, (156808 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Mar 1918 42724 Nash (157055 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Sep 1918 42725 Neary (156981 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Aug 1918 42727 Needham (156828 (Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, 2 Feb 1918 42729 Parnwell (156964 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42730 Pearson (156840 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42735 Powles (157166 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42536 Price (156829 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42542 Sandaver (157701 Queens)KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42545 Shortland (157160 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42546 Simmons (156843 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42547 Sinclair (157144 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42549 Smith (156799 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs, Apr 1918 42751 Smith (156859 Queens) KIA 7th Lincs Sep 1918 42753 Sutton (157069 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs Apr 1918 42754 Taylor (156954 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs Apr 1918 42757 Thompson (156831 Queens) 42758 Todd (157015 Queens) 42759 Todd (157009 Queens) 42760 Tozer (157170 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs Apr 1918 42761 Valentine (157667 Queens) 42763 Wagstaff (156969 Queens) 42764 Waldock (157189 Queens) 42765 Walker (156819 Queens) 42766 Waller (157025 Queens) 42767 Ward (19362, KRRC, 157233 Queens) 42768 Webster (156718 Queens) KIA 8th Lincs. Mar 1918 42769 Webster (156970 Queens) Looks to me they transferred to the 8th (maybe as part of the Jan 1918 re-organization), with Smith dying with the 7th Lincs, after being transferred?? Hope it helps, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 Jim You are an absolute star - just what I was looking for. I knew I had seen it somewhere - Wagstaff has a medal in my collection and another of the transfer batch has come up for sale locally. I think I'll have it. I'll get the rest of my lot off to you by PM in the next day or so Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 You're welcome. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 Fascinating. It would be inteteresting to see if there are also any number patterns for other units.......like the Tank Corps for example.......129 hits for those also. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 7 December , 2005 Share Posted 7 December , 2005 Steve (Yellow) So far I have found a couple of thjese number patterns - for Lincs to East Yorks and Lincs to Scots Fus and HLI. Not as many in the contingent, as with the Queen's Regt. You say you have a mate who collects to the Queen's Regt. Is that WW1 only or does he collect later medals? Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy 1 Posted 12 February , 2006 Share Posted 12 February , 2006 can any of you lads tell me about this transfer from the lincolns to the queens. pte walter fleshbourne lincs no 31758 queens royal west surreys number G/23120 thanks andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy 1 Posted 13 February , 2006 Share Posted 13 February , 2006 just bringing this back to the top. can anyone help with this query. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 13 February , 2006 Share Posted 13 February , 2006 Andy It took me a bit of time to get to my man, 5173 Pte George Empringham and his papers. The Lincolns that went to this regt went to the 12th & 13th Bn. and renumbered with a G prefix, i.e.G15405 as in the case of Empringham, who started his military life with 1/5th Linc.R. These men transferred prior to October, 1917. Reason for transfer is unknown. However given your mans relatively late number, he could have gone straight to the R.Suss. as soon as he landed in France, transferring from his local unit. Thats about all, I'm afraid. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy 1 Posted 13 February , 2006 Share Posted 13 February , 2006 Andy It took me a bit of time to get to my man, 5173 Pte George Empringham and his papers. The Lincolns that went to this regt went to the 12th & 13th Bn. and renumbered with a G prefix, i.e.G15405 as in the case of Empringham, who started his military life with 1/5th Linc.R. These men transferred prior to October, 1917. Reason for transfer is unknown. However given your mans relatively late number, he could have gone straight to the R.Suss. as soon as he landed in France, transferring from his local unit. Thats about all, I'm afraid. Lee thanks for the reply Lee. with my man having a late number do you think he went into the 12 or 13bn surreys or do you think he could have gone into another btn. i don't know much about him all i do know is that he survived the war and that he was my grandfathers brother. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 13 February , 2006 Share Posted 13 February , 2006 thanks for the reply Lee. with my man having a late number do you think he went into the 12 or 13bn surreys or do you think he could have gone into another btn. i don't know much about him all i do know is that he survived the war and that he was my grandfathers brother. andy Andy Sorry - i got mixed up, my man was with the Sussex, not the Surreys LEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted 13 February , 2006 Share Posted 13 February , 2006 Lee Out of interest the man next to Empringham on the Medal Rolls, Percy Foster (Alkborough), won a MM at St Juilian in July 1917 with the 12th Sussex, whilst acting as a runner. So puts the transfer before July 1917, and the lack of a six digit number for this group indicates they transferred before April 1917. I had a look through the Sussex Diaries and they do recieve several large batches during the late summer of 1916, although unfortunatley the origins of these drafts is not stated. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C729LEE Posted 14 February , 2006 Share Posted 14 February , 2006 Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Webster Posted 24 August , 2011 Share Posted 24 August , 2011 Just had a link to this thread with reference to Webster 42769, and noted that someone is researching a Wagstaff - I have a photo labelled Wagstaff (Rushden) - the latter is near George Websters home town of Raunds. It would be interesting to know if that is your man - I'll post the picture when I have time to get it scanned (I have a load to do...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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