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KONDOA

There have been several very useful and information packed threads concerning TF renumbering. Many forum questions relate specifically to the Royal Artillery. With this in mind I have started this thread to consolidate information from other threads relating to the TF but also the New Army Batteries.

In order to compile a reasonably comprehensive file of battery numbering I would ask any contributors not to post directly on the forum but to send any Battery or Ammunition Column number ranges direct to me in order to make one logical list in a single posting.

I have started by transferring information supplied by Dick Flory which covers most of the TF numbers. Please send any New Army numbering so that we can see how it all fits together.

This will take a bit of time and will evolve as information becomes more defined.

Roop

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SN RANGE/ BRIGADE (OR BATTERY)/ PREWAR REGULAR ARMY RHA/RFA

1 - 99999

SN RANGE/ BRIGADE (OR BATTERY)/ PREWAR REGULAR ARMY RGA

1 - 49999

SN RANGE/ BRIGADE (OR BATTERY)/ NEW ARMY BATTERY Etc.

11 Hull HB 290003 290324

158 Hull HB " "

38 Howitzer Brigade " "

38 Welsh HB 290325 290590

122 Oxford HB

124 Hull HB 290601 290850

126 Camberwell HB 290851 291008

199 Camberwell HB 291001 291145

127 Bristol HB 291146 291300

128 Oxford HB 291350 291500

129 Bristol HB 291580 291780

132 Oxford HB 291780 292000

125 County PalatineHB 292001 292250

133 County PalatineHB 292251 292450

134 Cornwall HB TF ------- -------- see TF lists

135 Oxford HB 292451 292700

137 Deptford HB 292726 292975

138 HampsteadHB 292951 293200

140 HammersmithHB 293201 293415

136 County PalatineHB 293401 293700

141 East Ham HB 293701 293950

142 Durham HB -------- -------- see TF lists

143 Ashton Under Lyne 293951 294150

144 York HB 294151 294350

145 Stockport HB 294351 294600

146 Hull HB 294601 294800

147 Leicester HB 294801 295000

148 Smethwick HB 295051 295300

149 Wakefield HB 295301 295550

150 Rotherham HB 295551 295750

151 Darlington HB 295751 296000

152 Hackney HB 296001 296250

153 Tottenham HB 296251 296500

139 HampsteadHB 296501 296700

154 Halifax 296701 296850

155 E. CheshireHB 296851 297100

156 Oxford 297101 297400

157 Leicester HB 297401 297600

SN RANGE/ BRIGADE (OR BATTERY)/ FORMER TF BRIGADE

300001-306000 4 HIGHLAND MTN BDE, RGA

306001-307000 FIFESHIRE HVY BY, RGA/ HIGHLAND DIV

307001-308000 2/1 EDINBURGH HVY BY, RGA/ LOWLAND DIV

307001-308000 CITY OF EDINBURGH HVY BY, RGA LOWLAND DIV

308001-310000 1 LANCASHIRE HY BY, RGA/ W LANCS DIV

308001-310000 2 LANCASHIRE HY BY, RGA/ W LANCS DIV

310001-311000 CARNARVON HVY BDE, RGA/ WELCH DIV

311001-312000 NORTHUMBRIAN HVY BY, RGA/ NUMBRIAN DIV

312001-313000 W RIDING HVY BDE, RGA /W RIDING DIV

313001-314000 2/1 N MIDLAND HVY BY, RGA /N MIDLAND DIV

313001-314000 STAFFORDSHIRE HVY BY, RGA/ N MIDLAND DIV

314001-315000 WARWICKSHIRE HVY BY, RGA/ S MIDLAND DIV

315001-316000 1/1 WESSEX (HAMPSHIRE) HVY BY, RGA/ WESSEX DIV

315001-316000 HAMPSHIRE HVY BY, RGA/ WESSEX DIV

316001-317000 ESSEX HVY BY, RGA/ E ANGLICAN DIV

317001-318000 KENT HVY BY, RGA/ HOME CO DIV

318001-321000 1 LONDON HVY BY, RGA/ LONDON DIV

318001-321000 2 LONDON HVY BY, RGA/ LONDON DIV

321001-326000 CORNWALL FORTRESS RGA

326001-329000 CLYDE FORTRESS RGA

329001-334000 DEVON FORTRESS RGA

334001-337000 DORSETSHIRE FORTRESS RGA

337001-340000 DURHAM FORTRESS RGA

340001-344000 ESSEX & SUSSEX FORTRESS RGA

344001-348000 FORTH (CITY OF EDINBURGH) FORTRESS RGA

348001-352000 GLAMORGAN FORTRESS RGA

352001-358000 HAMPSHIRE (SOUTHAMPTON) FORTRESS RGA

358001-362000 KENT FORTRESS RGA

362001-365000 LANCASHIRE & CHESHIRE FORTRESS RGA

365001-368000 N SCOTTISH (CITY OF ABERDEEN) FORTRESS RGA

368001-371000 ORKNEY FORTRESS RGA

371001-374000 PEMBROKE FORTRESS RGA

374001-376000 SUSSEX FORTRESS RGA

376001-328000 NORTHUMBERLAND (TYNEMOUTH) FORTRESS RGA

382001-388000 E RIDING OF YORKSHIRE FORTRESS RGA

600001-602000 INVERNESS-SHIRE BTY, RHA/ INVERNESS, RHA

602001-604000 1/AYRSHIRE BTY, RHA/ AYR, RHA

604001-606000 SHROPSHIRE BTY, RHA/ SHROPSHIRE, RHA

606001-608000 GLAMORGAN BTY, RHA/ GLAMORGAN RHA

608001-610000 C/264 W RIDING RHA

610001-612000 LEICESTERSHIRE BTY, RHA/ LEICESTER, RHA

612001-614000 NOTTINGHAMSHIRE BTY, RHA/ NOTTINGHAM, RHA

614001-616000 1/WARWICKSHIRE BTY, RHA/ WARWICK, RHA

616001-618000 BERKSHIRE BTY, RHA/ BERKSHIRE, RHA

618001-620000 A/264 HANTS RHA

620001-622000 SOMERSETSHIRE BTY, RHA/ SOMERSET, RHA

622001-624000 B/264 ESSEX RHA

624001-628000 HONOURABLE ARTILLERY CO. LONDON

630001-635000 255 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 HIGHLAND BDE

630001-635000 320 BDE, RFA TF/BDE, 2/HIGHLAND

635001-640000 256 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/ 2 HIGHLAND BDE

635001-640000 321 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/HIGHLAND

640001-645000 258 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 HIGHLAND BDE

640001-645000 322 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/HIGHLAND

645001-650000 51 DAC/ HIGHLAND

645001-650000 64 DAC/ 2/HIGHLAND

650001-655000 257 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 LOWLAND BETWEEN 11 MAY 16-3 JUN 16

650001-655000 325 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/LOWLAND

655001-660000 261 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 LOWLAND (260, 28 MAY 16-SEP 16)

655001-660000 326 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/LOWLAND

660001-665000 262 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 LOWLAND (261, 28 MAY 16-SEP 16)

660001-665000 327 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/LOWLAND

665001-669000 263 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 LOWLAND BDE (BROKEN UP DEC 16)

665001-670000 328 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/LOWLAND

669001-671000 264 BDE, RFA TF/ LOWLAND

670001-675000 65 DAC/ 2/LOWLAND

671001-675000 52 DAC/ LOWLAND

675001-680000 275 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 W LANCS

675001-680000 285 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 W LANCS

680001-685000 276 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 W LANCS

680001-685000 286 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 W LANCS

685001-690000 277 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 W LANCS

685001-690000 287 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 W LANCS (BROKEN UP FEB 17)

690001-695000 278 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 W LANCS (BROKEN UP OCT 16)

690001-695000 288 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 W LANCS

695001-700000 55 DAC/ W LANCASHIRE

695001-700000 57 DAC/ 2/W LANCASHIRE

700001-705000 210 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 E LANCS

700001-705000 330 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 E LANCASHIRE

705001-710000 211 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 E LANCS (BROKEN UP FEB 17)

705001-710000 331 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 E LANCASHIRE

710001-715000 212 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 E LANCS (RENUMBERED AS 211 BDE ON DEC 16)

710001-715000 332 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 LANCASHIRE (BROKEN UP, APR 17)

715001-720000 213 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 E LANCS BDE (BROKEN UP DEC 16, BTYS TO 120 & 211)

715001-720000 333 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 LANCASHIRE

720001-725000 42 DAC/ E LANC

720001-725000 66 DAC/ 2/E LANCASHIRE

725001-730000 265 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 WELCH BDE (BROKEN UP DEC 16)(RENUMBERED FROM 267, DEC 16)

725001-730000 340 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 WELCH (BROKEN UP MAY 16, BTRYS TO 342 & 343 BDES)

730001-735000 266 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 WELCH BDE

730001-735000 341 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 WELCH

735001-740000 267 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 CHESHIRE BDE (RENUMBERED 265, DEC 16)

735001-740000 342 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 CHESHIRE BDE

740001-745000 268 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 WELCH BDE (RENUMBERED 266, DEC 16)

740001-745000 343 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 WELCH

745001-750000 54 DAC/ WELCH

745001-750000 68 DAC/ 2/WELCH

750001-755000 250 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 NORTHUMBRIAN BDE

750001-755000 315 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 NORTHUMBRIAN

755001-760000 BDE, RFA TF/ 251 1/2 NORTHUMBRIAN BDE

755001-760000 BDE, RFA TF/ 316 2/2 NORTHUMBRIAN

760001-765000 BDE, RFA TF/ 252 1/3 NORTHUMBRIAN BDE

760001-765000 BDE, RFA TF/ 317 2/3 NORTHUMBRIAN

765001-770000 BDE, RFA TF/ 253 1/4 NORTHUMBRIAN BDE

765001-770000 BDE, RFA TF/ 318 2/4 NORTHUMBRIAN (RENUMBERED 223, JUL 16)

770001-775000 50 DAC/ NORTHUMBRIAN

770001-775000 63 DAC/ 2/NORTHUMBRIAN

775001-780000 245 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 W RIDING BDE

775001-780000 310 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 W RIDING

780001-785000 246 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 W RIDING BDE

780001-785000 311 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 W RIDING

785001-790000 247 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 W RIDING BDE

785001-790000 312 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 W RIDING

790001-795000 248 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 W RIDING BDE

790001-795000 313 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 W RIDING

795001-800000 49 DAC/ W RIDING

795001-800000 62 DAC/ 2/W RIDING

800001-805000 230 BDE, RFA TF/ 1 N MIDLAND BDE

800001-805000 295 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 N MIDLAND

805001-810000 231 BDE, RFA TF/ 2 N MIDLAND BDE

805001-810000 296 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 MIDLAND

810001-815000 232 AFA BDE BDE, RFA TF/ 3 N MIDLAND BDE

810001-815000 297 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 MIDLAND

815001-820000 233 BDE, RFA TF/ N MIDLAND

815001-820000 298 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 MIDLAND

820001-825000 46 DAC/ N MIDLAND

820001-825000 59 DAC/ 2/N MIDLAND

825001-830000 240 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 S MIDLAND BDE

825001-830000 305 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 S MIDLAND (BROKEN UP, SEP 16)

830001-835000 241 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 S MIDLAND BDE

830001-835000 306 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 S MIDLAND

835001-840000 242 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 S MIDLAND BDE

835001-840000 307 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 S MIDLAND

840001-845000 243 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 S MIDLAND BDE

840001-845000 308 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 S MIDLAND

845001-850000 48 DAC/ S MIDLAND

845001-850000 61 DAC/ 2/S MIDLAND

850001-855000 215 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 WESSEX BDE

850001-855000 225 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 WESSEX BDE

855001-860000 'E' RES BDE

855001-860000 216 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 WESSEX BDE

860001-865000 217 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 WESSEX BDE

860001-865000 227 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 WESSEX BDE

865001-870000 218 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 WESSEX BDE

865001-870000 228 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 WESSEX BDE

870001-875000 43 DAC/ WESSEX

870001-875000 45 DAC/ WESSEX

875001-880000 270 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 E ANGLICAN BDE (RENUMBERED 272, DEC 16)

875001-880000 345 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 E ANGLICAN (BROKEN UP DEC 16))

880001-885000 271 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 E ANGLICAN BDE

880001-885000 346 BDE, RFA TF/ BDE, 2/2 E ANGLICAN

885001-890000 272 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 BDE ANGLICAN BDE (BROKEN UP DEC 16)

885001-890000 347 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 E ANGLICAN

890001-895000 273 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 E ANGLICAN BDE (RENUMBERED 270, DEC 16)

890001-895000 348 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 E ANGLICAN

895001-900000 55 DAC/ E ANGLICAN

895001-900000 69 DAC/ 2/E ANGLICAN

900001-905000 220 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 HOME CO BDE

900001-905000 335 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 HOME CO (BROKEN UP MAR 16)

905001-910000 221 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 HOME CO BDE

905001-910000 336 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 HOME CO

910001-915000 222 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 HOME CO BDE

910001-915000 337 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 HOME CO

915001-920000 27 DAC/ HOME CO

915001-920000 338 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 HOME CO (BROKEN UP, MAR 16)

920001-925000 43 DAC/ HOME CO

920001-925000 67 DAC/ 2/HOME COUNTIES

925001-930000 280 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/1 LONDON BDE

925001-930000 290 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/1 LONDON BDE

930001-935000 281 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/2 LONDON BDE

930001-935000 291 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/2 LONDON BDE

935001-940000 282 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/3 LONDON BDE

935001-940000 292 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/3 LONDON BDE (BROKEN UP, SEP 16)

940001-945000 283 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/4 LONDON BDE

940001-945000 293 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/4 LONDON BDE

945001-950000 56 DAC/ 1 LONDON

945001-950000 58 DAC/ 2/1ST LONDON

950001-955000 235 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/5 LONDON BDE

950001-955000 300 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/5 LONDON (BROKEN UP AUG 16)

955001-960000 236 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/6 LONDON BDE

955001-960000 301 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/6 LONDON

960001-965000 237 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/7 LONDON BDE

960001-965000 302 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/7 LONDON

965001-970000 238 BDE, RFA TF/ 1/8 LONDON BDE

965001-970000 303 BDE, RFA TF/ 2/8 LONDON

970001-975000 47 DAC/ 2ND LONDON

970001-975000 60 DAC/ 2/2ND LONDO

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ororkep

I hope I have come to the right catagory concerning RGA as I am very new to this method of communication. Questions requiring answers please to anyone that can help. Trying to find out info on 81st siege battery RGA and if part of a larger grouping; particularly on the 19/10/1917. Just what exactly was a siege battery ,ie how many men needed to man whatever type of guns, if horses used ect. Were they fixed guns and so on. Also difference between RGA and RFA would broaden my knowledge base. G uncle P. O'Rorke 23321 was a gunner killed on the above date, presume at 3rd Ypres, Thanks in anticipation from new member as of five minutes ago.

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Stebie9173

Welcome to the Forum,

Would you mind starting a new Topic in the Units & Formations forum please as we are going to use this Topic to discuss numbers and don't want to waylay it.

If you Click on Great War Forum at the Top of this page, click on Units and Formations you will find a New Topic button. That way you will get far better information on your man and unit than you would with the discussion lost in a different topic.

We look forward to helping you there...

Steve.

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Graham Stewart

Roop,

I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but would you Artillery boys like all of the locations of all Artillery units as they were as from 1st July 1913, most of which hadn't changed by August 1914.

Graham.

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kildaremark

Sounds good Graham,

Not sure if this fits in but my grandfather's RGA no. was 64278 - doesn't seem to fit any of the above list?

Does this mean his number is a post August 1914 regular army number? Also would there be a 64278 RFA and RHA or was this number the only 64278 for all RA?

Mark

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Graham Stewart

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For all those Artillery fans out there the unit locations as from the 1st July 1913 will now appear.

Graham.

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The R.H.A. 1913.

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The Royal Garrison Artillery 1913.

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Graham Stewart

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The really big one, the Royal Field Artillery 1913.

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That's yer lot, five mile snipers.

Graham.

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Simon R

I consider myself duly flabbergasted.

The last bde. on the last scan is interesting: it suggests 11th bty @ Burley and 4th WR amm. col. @ Ilkley - this should really be the other way round, unless something fundamental happened here that I haven't heard about.

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Moonraker

Graham

That's useful, I've copied the Wiltshire entries for my own records.

Thanks

Moonraker

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KONDOA

Evening Chums,

Have given the main Battery list a little update. The numbers relate to the ranges given for a particular battery group when renumbered. It does not mean your particular man was with this battery after renumbering, it indicates a possible initial battery circa 1914/16. Comments, suggestions,more information appreciated.

Roop

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Owen D

Just bumping this up as it is proving very interesting.

Helping with the W Gosling VC thread.

Also

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Back in 1990 I worked out of this old building for several months.

We used it for Royal Mail parcels before we lost the work to Parcelfarce.

Seeing the vans lined up inside made be wonder what it was like in the old days with the guns and limbers in there.

Now the building has gone and flats with their parking area are there instead.

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Karen Eves

Hi Konda,

I am new to the Great War Forum so I'm just finding my feet.

I am researching my Great Grandfathers military history his name was Gnr Michael Holden, SN 296131 / 6927 of the 152 (Hackney) Heavy Battery RGA.

I have stumbled across your correspondence and wondering where you got the range of SN from, because they do not correlate with the Roll of Indivdual Medal at National Archives Q which my father has gathered during recent research. For example, there are numbers missing and numbers listed in other batterys. Hopefully you can understand that this has thrown my research into some confusion.

The first entry I have for the 152 is SN 296006, can you please clarify where you found your information so I can confirm the exact numbers of the Officers and Men that comprised the 152nd Battery.

I have recently contacted the Artillery Museum in Woolwich and they cannot explain how your numbers have been derived.

During my research I have discovered a whole host of information on the 152nd (Hackney) and would be more that willing to share that information to parties interested.

Your time on this matter is very gratefully received.

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ororkep

Welcome Karen,

No one knows the exact number that were in 152 HB and possibly never will. One can only take an informed educated guess based on experience of other more fully recorded batteries. The paltry 2 months official diary offers up less than 20 names mostly Officers. It shows a snapshot in time total compliment of 203 in Apr 1916 but this is no where near the sum total of those that would have served in 152 HB during the whole course of the war. The allocations say a section from 182 HB joined in Oct 1916. this will be another 80 odd names to add. Reading the 8 of the 9 HAG diaries they were part of will possibly give another 100 if you are very lucky, (one is missing completely), this might still leave you short of anything up to another 100 names that were part of the battery before it disbanded in 1919. You may find a large proportion by trawling through the 6 Silver War badge medal rolls (a great source) and the 30 plus British and Victory RGA rolls, but you will never get all of them as a high percentage are listed as ‘Base Details’ or simply ‘RGA’, so can be impossible to associate with your battery of interest, others will confuse you by showung a different battery mentioned entirely. A personal diary can prove a godsend for names, equally the Lon Gaz will add to your total and the Monthly returns tell you how many men to expect in any given period. Then Soldiers Died and CWGC and national Roll of honours will give you and confirm about 25% for the Batteries deaths and those that were injured. based on an average HB. When you have anything between 350 to 480 names of which 40 could be Officers entered in a database with all the corresponding service numbers, and sort them by number rather than alphabetical you will magically find the numbering is correct for the largest percentage of them. Sort also by the B&V references on the MIC and you will see other patterns appearing, likewise for the SWB’s, all the result of a huge undertaking in time and effort initiated by R Flory and expanded on by Kondoa for which they must both be congratulated. Of course there are gaps as gunners moved on through promotion or left because of injury and of course death. Many you will never find and have yet to find; replacements, transfers, attachments and those seconded will have different numbers that buck the trend. Some will have two and three numbers that make searching even harder or appear under their previous numbers; you can have a MIC name and number to 152 HB and the B&V mans same number to a completely different battery, but as a good starting point the base reference is roughly correct for the innitial core compliment that first made up the battery. The closest I have personally seen to yours is 155 HB, which is in the RGA roll WO329/308 and has well over 250 names of 155 gunners in it, the vast majority in one block. this is a great start to anyone interested in researching this battery but few bother to go beyond the MIC cards to the actual rolls. Mountain batteries are others I have seen in a similay sequence and 139 HB is another good example and we havent even started on the Am Col yet.

I note your ancestor falls in the middle of the sequence. Try entering 152nd Heavy in the online MIC database and see what come up in relation to his other number. Chance, i dont think so there is obviously a system behind it and the more members post their own findings the more information becomes available to make the results more accurate.

Rgds and good luck with your research

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KONDOA

Hi Karen,

These number ranges are empirical in that they have been worked out from numerous sources to give a rough correlation for each TF association raised New Army Battery. The work continues.

I would agree that 152 battery may well start at 006, and there will be gaps as not all numbers in a range were allocated . Some men left before renumbering etc etc.

Therefore the number ranges I have identified need using with caution in that other complementary information is required. The numbers are only relevant to those men renumbered from the old TF type numbering where a TF primary number exists and thus would tend to be local men to the point of enlistment and unit raising. From this number series one can deduce the majority of the men who served in a particular battery in 1917 ish, it is a snapshot of the battery which can be very useful. it is by no means the complete picture though.

In the medal rolls you may well see references to other units but often these are the unit previously served with and rank upon entering theatre of war.

Hope this helps.

Roop

PS . Any information on this subject you wish to share will be welcomed. Thanks

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Karen Eves

Ororkep, Roop,

Thank you so much for the information.

I will keep researching and keep you posted.

Karen

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Hello Karen,

I am also tracing my Great grandfather's army career. He was also a member of 152 battery, RGA. I wondered since your last posting whether you had uncovered any more information about this battery and where it was sent during WWI?

Any information would be appreciated.

My great grandfather's details are Gunner John King Hirst, 152 battery, Royal Garrison Artillery. Regt Number 95-348.

Regards,

Mark Hirst

Ororkep, Roop,

Thank you so much for the information.

I will keep researching and keep you posted.

Karen

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kevinrowlinson

Hi Mark and welcome,

Always pleased to see this thread come to the top again.

You obviously have something that puts Gunner Hirst in the 152 battery but perhaps you can confirm that it's the Heavy Battery rather than the Siege.

Your g. grandfathers number is the second this Christmas that falls in the same batch who enlisted at the same time. It would indicate someone who signed "on the dotted line" on the 16 June 1916 at the Citadel, Plymouth, having arrived up to a week or so earlier. There are quite a group of men who were mobilised from the Edinburgh and Leith areas and perhaps you can confirm whether he did also. Like the other gunner most of the men went onto 15 Coy, Carrick Fergus, and eventually joined either 198 HB or 199 HB. If you have his records then I would be very interested to know his service history.

Regards Kevin

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ororkep

Mark,

Welcome to the forum.

I’m never pleased to see this come to the top again just acutely embarrassed! :D

Your GGF did not serve with 152 Battery. Unfortunately you have made the common mistake the other new member made in that the 152 B you read on the medal card and interpreted as 152 Battery, is the reference to the British and Victory Medal Roll at the NA. It will be followed by page 5243.

However I can tell you that in this case the page will confirm he served with 324 Siege Battery RGA, and you should therefore start a complete new thread for information on that Battery.

Rgds Paul

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Anne Henderson

Hi Konda

I have been researching my grandfather (father's father) who was 2Lt Matthew McPherson Jack (or Robertson). I have found out quite a lot about him up to Oct 1923, when he disappeared. I noticed your query about him and wondered what your interest was. Are you also related to him? If so I may have some information which would be of interest to you, that is of course if you have not already got it.

regards

Anne

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michael1956

Hi guys,

My ancestor Edward Thomas Booth was in the RFA with the service number 188518 - can't quite see where it fits in with the numbers above - can anyone help out a newbie?

Many thanks

Mike

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jay dubaya

Mike,

the above number blocks were allocated to the Territorial Force (TF), your ancestors number isn't a TF number, it is just a high number issued later in the war. If you have a copy of Edward's MIC the medal references will lead you to the medal rolls held at the National Archives where his actual unit information may be held,

Jon

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michael1956
Mike,

the above number blocks were allocated to the Territorial Force (TF), your ancestors number isn't a TF number, it is just a high number issued later in the war. If you have a copy of Edward's MIC the medal references will lead you to the medal rolls held at the National Archives where his actual unit information may be held,

Jon

Jon,

Thanks very much for this, that's very helpful! Am finding it quite tricky identifying Edward's war service - but thanks!

Mike

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kevinrowlinson

Quote, "Am finding it quite tricky identifying Edward's war service"

His service records are available.

Kevin

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michael1956
Quote, "Am finding it quite tricky identifying Edward's war service"

His service records are available.

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Thanks - have got Edward's records and have a good idea of where he served - thanks for your help

mike

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