Pte John William Gowans 2812 Northumberland Fusili

[Guest Jimmy Knacky]

Jimmy,

As a Jarra Lad and big Palmer fan, I bet you haven't this before. Recruitng advertisement for the 13th Glosters(Forest of Dean, Pioneers), asked for a 100 lads and took nearly a company(250) of Durham pit lads with him.

Graham.

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Cheers Graham

Godfrey Palmer was MP for Jarrow between 1910-22 (I always thought he was a Tory MP but going by that poster he was a Liberal MP as his Agents office was the Liberal Club - never been a Liberal Club in Jarrow for yonks)

He was the son of Charles Mark Palmer Liberal MP for Jarrow 1885 to his death in 1907

Mind in between them 2 was Pete Curran 1st Labour MP for Jarrow 1907 to his death in 1910

And this Godfrey Palmer had a commision - wonder if he seen any action or just help put the sandbags in front of the House of Commons..............

[Dave Owens]

Just remembering.

Its now 93 years this past few weeks.

[Dave Owens]

Just an update

It seems we were off the mark with Cousin Willie.

He was called William Amour ( John William Gowans brother-in-law )

Born Seghill 1895.

Names A | 11th Durham Light Infantry

eleventhdli.wordpress.com/roll-of-honour/names-a-2/He was called up to the training reserve on 18 August 1917 before being posted ... In 1901, William was the six-year old son of James Amour, aged 44, master stonemason working underground at the Seghill pit, Seaton Delaval, ... Private 14945, missing in action 24 March 1918, commemorated on the Pozières Memorial.

This is him,

But when i tried to find out more from the memorial, this came up

Casualty Details

Name: AMOUR

Initials: W

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Durham Light Infantry

Unit Text: 11th Bn.

Date of Death: 28/03/1918

Service No: 17554

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: P. VI. M. 1A.

Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN

This second information is confusing me. I understand only one W. Amour died at that time ?

[Dave Owens]

Could this be the same person but with a different number for some reason. I can't find out the answer on the sites.

Any help appreciated.

[Dave Owens]

Did find this but its confusing.

Amour, William

Private 17554, died of wounds 28 March 1918. From Seaton Delaval. Buried in St Sever Cemetery Extension, Rouen.

In 1901, William was the six-year old son of James Amour, aged 44, master stonemason working underground at the Seghill pit, Seaton Delaval, Northumberland, and his wife Sarah. There were seven children: James (16), Charlton (14), Ann (23), John (8), Richard (12), William (6) and Margaret (3). The family had moved around, the parents coming from Benton and Gateshead respectively, and the children being born either in Earsdon or Seghill. William was born in Seghill. They lived at 49 Double Row, Seghill. The two eldest sons were coal miner drivers, both working underground, so it seems likely that William was bound for pit work when he got older.

At the time of his enlistment in Newcastle in August 1914, William was indeed a ‘putter’, aged 19 years and 345 days. We know nothing more, as only one page of his service papers seems to have survived. He was born towards the end of 1894 (GRO Ref: Tynemouth 10 b 264, Oct-Dec 1894).

His medal index card indicates that he went out with 11 DLI on 20 July 1915 and therefore had trained with them, and probably stayed with them at the rank of Private until his death in 1918. As he died in the hospital at Rouen, where he was buried, it is likely that he was wounded at some point during the preceding days up to 27 March 1918 and was carried back to Rouen for treatment.

To find out further information it would be necessary to trace the specific hospital within which William was treated, or the Casualty Clearing Station through which he most likely passed, for the period 25-27 March 1918. The registers for these establishments might contain useful references.