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bart592

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Hello Again

I need some help with my grandfathers Certificate of service it seems that he served on the HMS Victory! could this be Nelsons Victory or are there later ships with the same name,surely the HMS Victory would have been completely out of date with the ww1 ships ?

Dates Served

1st April 1905-17th March 1906

9th Aug 1907-17th Aug 1907

2nd Aug 1914-24th Aug 1914

5th Dec 1914-22nd Dec 1914

Thanks

Bart

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Bart,

Can you post the SC, it may give more information it is possible to be on the Books of HMS Victory and be serving in some other ship or establishment that does not have a Pay Office. Also there are more than one Victory and yes one of which was Nelsons Flagship, still is.

Regards Charles

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I think generally anything called HMS Victory by then was a training establishment of some kind - this has been kicked about the forum a bit at least once before, so a search on HMS Victory may helpyou. IIRC individual Victories were numbered, up to at least 14. Most were based at or near to Portsmouth, but some were quite a long way away.

Adrian

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The various 'Victory' shore bases around the WW1 period were...

Victory I = Portsmouth

Victory II = Crystal Palace

Victory III = Portsmouth

Victory IV = London/Portsmouth/Petersfield/Crystal Palace

Victory VI = Crystal Palace

Victory VII = Portland

Victory IX = Portsmouth

Victory X = Portsmouth

Victory XI = Portland

There were others during later periods and some of the above moved. As can be seen, several different 'Victory' locations were at the same place at various times.

Info from 'Shore Establishments of the Royal Navy' by Lt Cdr B.Warlow.

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HMS Victory was and remains the flagship of the Commander in Chief, Portsmouth and as such had and has a ceremonial detachment of officers and ratings, as well as a ‘crew’ for the day to day duties of such an important command.

Also in 1903 a barracks had been built for the ‘Portsmouth’ men (see the manning port thread), and this was also named Victory. So your grandfather was probably in barracks, or on leave. Up to the turn of the century, men had had to sling their hammocks in old ships, including some dating to the Napoleonic Wars, which were still afloat as hulks instead of barracks; that included men who served in WWI.

In WWI was Victoryalso used as the depot ship for Auxiliary patrols.

Victory II was the training depot of the Royal Naval Divisions.

Btw during WWI Victory was still afloat!

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HMS Victory was and still is in commission and any other boat or ship would be differentiated from her. There was a trawler called Victory, but she would have been HMT Victory. Others bearing the name Victory, if they were taken in would have been renamed.

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HMS Victory was and still is in commission and any other boat or ship would be differentiated from her. There was a trawler called Victory, but she would have been HMT Victory. Others bearing the name Victory, if they were taken in would have been renamed.

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