Guest Ian Topham Posted 8 August , 2003 Share Posted 8 August , 2003 Can any one recommend a book that details specifically the occurences at Etaples during the mutiny. Why? when? how?, what units etc. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 8 August , 2003 Share Posted 8 August , 2003 I think Julian Putkowski did a little book on the Bull Ring, but I don't have the details to hand... there were not specific units involved in the mutiny (which was more of a 'disturbance' than a full scale mutiny as in the French Army), except the units which were brought in to quell the rioting... which from memory included at least one cavalry regiment and the Manchester Pals from 7th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 8 August , 2003 Share Posted 8 August , 2003 PS The Monocoled Mutineer is a good bit of fiction on the subject - before someone posts it! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 8 August , 2003 Share Posted 8 August , 2003 Paul Any idea which Bn of Manchesters were involved? Not come across this before. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 9 August , 2003 Share Posted 9 August , 2003 From memory it was the 21st Bn - a detachment, and not the whole battalion I think, was sent to Etaples in September 1917 to quell the riots. I believe I came across this in Staff diaries, but off hand not sure which ones. Maybe it is mentioned in the bn war diary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 10 August , 2003 Share Posted 10 August , 2003 For info, no mention of this in Bonner's history of the 21st. Just mentions the Bn was at Le Nieppe from 5/9 to 15/9 when it went into training around Moringhem. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 12 August , 2003 Share Posted 12 August , 2003 Just found the details of the book(s) etc I hinted at: Gill, D. & Putkowsli, J. 'The British Base Camp at Etaples' (Museum Quentovic of Etaples, France c.1999/2000) - I got my copy at the museum, which is in the centre of Etaples. Other useful sources are: Gill, D. & Dallas, G. 'Mutiny at Etaples Base in 1917', Past & present, 69, Oxford, 1975. Gill, D. & Dallas, G. 'The Unknown Army' (Verso, London, 1985) Putkowski, J. 'Toplis, Etaples and the Monocled Mutineer', Stand To!, 18, Winter 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Birch Posted 12 August , 2003 Share Posted 12 August , 2003 Is there anything left of the Bull Ring these days? And where was it in relation to the current location of the CWGC Cemetery? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 12 August , 2003 Share Posted 12 August , 2003 None of the wartime buildings are left, but I have found the remains of training grounds with barbed wire picquets etc still in situ - some of them in the dunes opposite where the cemetery is now. There is a good map of Etaples in the article by Julian Putkowski in the back issue of Stand To! which clearly shows the location of all the camps and training areas etc in relation to the cemetery. In the museum is a large amount of material dug up on the sites of where the camps were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 29 March , 2020 Share Posted 29 March , 2020 On 12/08/2003 at 18:09, Paul Reed said: Just found the details of the book(s) etc I hinted at: Gill, D. & Putkowsli, J. 'The British Base Camp at Etaples' (Museum Quentovic of Etaples, France c.1999/2000) - I got my copy at the museum, which is in the centre of Etaples. Instead of writing a new one, I'd better resurrect this thread with my question: is there some way to still find this book??? The museum is closed now (nothing to do with Corona if I understood right) and it's not on amazon and the likes... In English or French is fine... Thanks Marilyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Taylor Posted 29 March , 2020 Share Posted 29 March , 2020 Marilyne, There's a copy for sale here: https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=&tn=British+Base+Camp+at+Etaples&kn=&isbn= Seems to be dual English and French. Regards Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 30 March , 2020 Share Posted 30 March , 2020 Thanks Colin. Could anybody eventually share a copy of the article Gill, D. & Dallas, G. 'Mutiny at Etaples Base in 1917', Past & present, 69, Oxford, 1975. ??? I found a possibility on Oxford Academic… but they ask 27€ to read the article??? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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