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Milner

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His Number was J42734,

The Names on the LH side of the sheet are the Ships served on starting with HMS Ganges,as a BoyII in 1915,The Dates for each posting & His Number on the Ship are opposite the Name of said Ship/Shore base,His Rank follows in the next column,BoyII,Boy,Boy Telegrapher,Ordinary Seamn Telegrapher,& Telegrapher{abbreviated}In the Character & Ability Columns he is rated VG[Very Good] & Supr[superior]He was Discharged Free on 2nd April 1920.

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He started off at sea aboard battleships and moved onto destroyers. The names in brackets are the destroyers he served on.

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Milner

Interested to see that he was serving on Malborough for five months at the same time that my great unclle, Christopher Breeze.

Myrtle

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He started off at sea aboard battleships and moved onto destroyers. The names in brackets are the destroyers he served on.

Do you know why it says Blake then (morning star) in brackets. And walkers also in brackets.

Was Blake the ship or Morning Star, or walkers ?

thanks

Phil

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It was often the case that a man could be kept on the books of a large ship but served on a smaller unit. The Paymasters on Blake, Columbine and Greenwich would be responsible for his pay, leave and the such allowing the smaller ships not to have to carry so many 'admin staff'.

Davie.

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HMS Blake Greenwich Columbine were all depot ships (there are various threads on this forum about depot ships), They would be where his mail and pay would be sent.

Morning Star was an ‘Moon’ class destroyer launched 26/6/15, http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/moon_class.htm#HMS Morning Star

Walker was a ‘W’ class destroyer launched 29/11/17. http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/long_range.htm#HMS Walker

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Hi Phil,

Here is some of the detail on H.F. Milner's RN Service record.

He signed on as a Boy II (Boy 2nd class) as has already been mentioned.

& served on the Training ships Ganges & Impregnable. Pembroke is the RN base/ barracks at Chatham, where he would have been sent whilst awaiting a seagoing draft.

He then gets drafted to HMS Royal Oak a Battleship (B/S) of Nov '14. She served in the Grand Fleet in the 1st Battle Sqdn. He would have seen action in the battle of Jutland 31 May - 1 June 1916.

He then serves on HMS Marlboro & Resolution both B/S of '12 & '14 & both also served in the Grand Fleet, 1st BS.

A note here regarding his rate- his civilian occupation is shown as "deck hand merchant service" - in the RN he served as a Boy Telegraphist (wireless operator)

& was "specially rated' as Ordinary Telegraphist prior to reaching 18 yrs of age on 3 Feb '17.

Normally he would have been rated Ord teleg on 3 Aug '17, his 18th birthday.

He gets advanced to Telegraphist on 4 Dec '17.

Then he gets drafted to Destroyers - first to HMS Morning Star, an M class Destroyer of July '17. Then to HMS Walker, a V/W class Destoyer of Nov '17.

HMS Blake, Greenwich & Columbine were all Destroyer Depot ships as has already been mentioned.

He then gets drafted to Vivid, the RN base/barracks at Devonport for release. he was Discharged to Shore with a 'free discharge' on 7 Apl '20. The RN was being reduced in manpower after the war & as he was likely no longer req'd he was granted a free discharge.

Hope this helps you somewhat,

Bryan

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& here is a pic of the Telegraphist rate badge he would have worn Phil,

Bryan

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& here is a pic of the Telegraphist rate badge he would have worn Phil,

Bryan

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He then gets drafted to HMS Royal Oak a Battleship (B/S) of Nov '14.  She served in the Grand Fleet in the 1st Battle Sqdn. He would have seen action in the battle of Jutland 31 May - 1 June 1916.

Unfortunately he missed Jutland as he arrived aboard on 11th June 1916.

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Unfortunately he missed Jutland as he arrived aboard on 11th June 1916.

Thanks you all for the information, lots of it now makes sense, Harold Milner went back to the merchant navy after leaving the RN. He was awarded in 1924 the Royal Humane society bronze medal for saving a drowning man in the river Tyne I have a picture of him wearing the medal taken with the man who's life he saved. A brave man indeed.

From the RHS web site.

Milner, H.F.

Seaman

14.11.23

Mouth of the Tyne

47165

Thanks to all, Phil

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Unfortunately he missed Jutland as he arrived aboard on 11th June 1916.

:( Missed that, :( typing too quick I guess - mind not in gear with fingers - apologies - I'm on Nr 5 for a few days!

Bry

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