Lt. WJ Jones MC

[Tony N]

Hello,

I have the opportunity of buying a Military Cross which is named to a Lieutenant W.J. Jones (no date present). I’m afraid I don’t have a picture of it but it looks good to me.

The question I have is can anyone please verify if Lt. W.J. Jones really was awarded the MC and is £500 too much?

Thanks

Tony

[HarryBettsMCDCM]

I would expect that @ least one & probably a handful of Lt W.J.Jones' were awarded the MC finding out which one is going to be the problem!

[Tony N]

Hello Harry,

I was told only 2 WJ Jones were awarded the MC and one of them was a casualty in 1916.

I take it if he was a casualty it adds to the price but I would have thought £400 is more realistic.

Tony

[Glosters]

Lieutenant (QM) W.J. Jones, 7th Bn Worcestershire Regt. survived the war. He is listed as MC in Honours and Awards 1914-20.

CWGC has 2 possibles for the casualty

Lieut. William James Jones, 6th Bn Liverpool Regt

Lieut. Walter Joseph Jones, 7th Bn Norfolk Regt

Niether is shown as MC.

If this is a single MC with no supporting named medals or original documents, I wouldn't touch it personally. There are sources for good quality faked MCs or genuine ones with names engraved at a much later date (ie yesterday). You need to compare this one to a genuine one and pay for it as though it was unnamed. If you are left with a single engraved MC then you can never prove that this was 'the one' issued to the recipient.

At a recent auction in London (run by a foreign company) they had 2 MCs for sale, even a quick look at the pictures in the catalogue showed that at least one was a copy and the other would need close inspection. Be very careful.

Steve

[rflory]

In what is an admittedly incomplete search, I can only find one MC recipient with the name "W J Jones" and he is 7 RQMS W J Jones, 1/7 Worcs Regt, whose MC was gazetted in the London Gazette of 27 June 1916 and the citation was published in the London Gazette of 19 Aug 1916. The only Lieutenant W J Jones who was killed (or died) in 1916 was Lt William James Jones, 6/Liverpool Regt and I have been unable to find any indication that he received the MC.

In my opinion, a verified and named single MC is only worth approximately what an unnamed MC is worth which currently is about £400-500. Dick Flory

[Tony N]

Harry, Steve and Dick, thank you very much for your help!

Cheers

Tony

[HarryBettsMCDCM]

Beware;Also, of "Offers" of MCs @ apparent Bargain prices via E mail from apparent e Bay traders,these Originate from Eastern Europe & are totally spurious,just designed to relieve you of your Money;I used to get three or four of these E Mails a month,but They seem to have moved on.......

[delta]

I am no expert on these matters but

"Lieutenant (QM) W.J. Jones, 7th Bn Worcestershire Regt. survived the war. He is listed as MC in Honours and Awards 1914-20"

Could it be that "RQMS W J Jones, 1/7 Worcs Regt, whose MC was gazetted in the London Gazette of 27 June 1916" was subsequently commissioned (as a QM) and the medal presented after he was elevated?

Just a thought

[Tony N]

Thanks again for all your help but I think I'll give it a miss. Too much money and stake and not enough experience on my behalf.

Tony

[ypres1418]

Tony,

sorry to hijack your thread but to Harry, Steve and Dick

If you have the MC along with the BWM and Victory medals all named am I right in thinking that they are worth £600 - £650?

A friend of mine has his Grandfathers and I know that they are not insured for even £400.

I know it was a few years ago he got them valued but when the bloke was looking at the medals he got them mixed up! Medals to Great grandfather (Sebastopol etc) ok, grandfather MC and Victory, and then put the BWM with his fathers WW2 medals! Still I have been able to put them together now for him.

Thanks in advance and once again sorry for the hijack.

Mandy