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No. 10, 42, 49 Companies (Cork) RGA


kildaremark

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Nos 10, 42 & 49 companies RGA were in Cork and No 15 Company was in Antrim prior to the war.

Does anyone know if the men from these formed the nucleus of any parrticular new batteries formed for the war(presumably at Woolwich)?

Mark

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Mark,

Not a particular easy one to answer as all of my reference works seem to say that all of the R.G.A. Company's that you mention ended up in Fire Command's, but these weren't created until 1918.

So as an alternative I looked at where batteries were formed in Ireland and have come up with the following 20th(Siege)Bty,R.G.A. formed at Queenstown 15/1/1915; 31st(Siege)Bty,R.G.A. formed at Queenstown 1/2/1915. Whether or not they contained personnel from those companies I couldn't say.

From another War Office source that I have dated 1st July 1913, the R.G.A. Company's that were serving in Ireland were;-

10th Coy,R.G.A. - Spike Island, Queenstown Harbour.

14th Coy,R.G.A. - Londonderry.

43rd Coy,R.G.A. - Spike Island.

49th Coy,R.G.A. - Spike Island.

This list was issued quarterly so ineffect 43rd and 42nd Companies, could have changed stations between 1st July 1913 and 1st July 1914.

Graham.

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Thanks Graham,

I know that tracing an Pre-war RGA man from a RGA company in Ireland to a particular battery is fraught with plenty of hazards and possibilities but only two batteries formed in Ireland must suggest that the majority would have been sent to Woolwich to make up the balance for other units?

I'm surprised to see any batteries formed in Ireland as I thought all training was in the Depots in England although I believe there was a 15th Brigade Depot RGA in Athlone? - Would the potential gunner go there for his initial training and 1st class certificate or would all gunners have to go to England for training (except territorials)?

My own grandfather served with Heavy Batteries and Trench Mortar Batteries in France & Flanders 1915-18 and possibly a period late in the war in Messopotamia(specific batteries unknown) and said he served with a Super Heavy Battery - a term which I am told was not in use at the time even though he used it!

He was a regular soldier and served in Cork post war until 1920/21 - not sure though if a regular would generally return to his original pre-war company (Now Fire Command) after the war or whether he could end up anywhere?

Mark

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Mark,

I have to admit I'm no expert on the R.G.A. what-so-ever, but when someone throws a query over to the Forum I try and use my extensive specialist library to it's advantage in the hope it will help someone.

Your're certainly right about the Super Heavy Batteries, which were actually found in the the five armies, but usually manned by the Royal Marine Artillery, as these were in the main 15" Howitzers. They R.G.A. seemed to operate 12" or 14" Howitzers on railway mountings, so it's possible that the latter were classed as "super heavy".

I do have a list of all the Heavy Batteries which served outside of the U.K., which mentions the front on which they served. For instance in Mespot you have 2/86th(Heavy)Bty,R.G.A. serving with 100 Bde?, which had 4x 60pdr guns and so on, but this is probably of no use to you, unless of course you want a list supplying?

I can't find any R.G.A. Depots in Ireland(war or prewar), but I have found that pre-war you had No.2 Depot,R.F.A. stationed at Athlone, plus I know all of the 1913 locations of the R.F.A. in Ireland.

Certainly I would think that those two Batteries which were formed at Queenstown Harbour, would have taken men from those R.G.A. Company's which were stationed in Ireland at the time. From the notes I have on the Siege Batteries it would appear the the R.G.A.(TF) on the mainland formed the nucleus of many of those Siege Battery units formed in the UK.

Graham.

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