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Chris Noble

Hi.

Looking for Trench Map covering the area of Mild and Cloudy Trenches, ideally, October 16.

Thanks in advance, Chris.

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Chris Noble

Malcolm.

Many thanks for that. Just a point of interest, is that the Newfoundland Caribou in the background of the photograph?

Regards, Chris.

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Malcolm

Ten out of Ten Chris.

Aye

Malcolm

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bluedog

Malcolm

Great maps and photo.

In your files would you have anything on the 13th Btn. AIF

at Stormy Trench, Gueudecourt on 4/5 Feb. 1917

Peter

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Malcolm

I don't sorry. I only have September/ October 1916.

Aye

Malcolm

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egbert

Very unique aerial from 1 Oct 1916; if needed in high resolution email me

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egbert

how about that Malcolm?

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egbert

November; German trenchmap

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egbert

Just arrived 1 hr ago in Alabama from Europe trip to gueudecourt where I took some pics a couple of days ago; here is a panorama left is Thilloy, right is Gueudecourt, viewpoint is the "Luisenhof"

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Malcolm

Hey, that's great Egbert. Hope you had a good trip.

Aye

Malcolm

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Chris Noble

Hey guys, what can i say, fantastic.

I'll drop you a P.M. egbert.

Thanks for all your input Pals!

Kindest regards to you all.

Chris.

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delta

wonderful series of shots - thank you :D

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G.Driver 10thLF

Any more maps and pics, maps from the dates between Oct - Jan?

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tim_oz

WithDoubleBass

What are you looking for in particular I have a number of maps of the area between Oct 1916 and early 1917.

Tim B

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G.Driver 10thLF

any trench maps for that time period. my relative died from trench foot and his battlion was in the trenches near there. heres a list of the were he was during the date he mustave got trench foot. he died 5/1/1917. he was buried in rouen so i suppose he was brought outta the line mid decemeber or so. im not sure this is where the trail goes cold but im looking for maps of the area. arial recconsance maps for this time would be extra special.

November 1916

2nd to 5th in trenches at Guedecourt

5th to 8th in reserve at Bernafay Wood

8th to 10th in trenches at Guedecourt. Attack 3rd November.

10th November

H Camp Carnoy

11th to 14th by train to Hangest

15th November to 13th December 1916

At Ailly-sur-Somme

13th December: by train from Hangest to Meaulte

14th to 23rd December in reserve at Meaulte

23rd to 25th December Camp XVIII at Carnoy

25th December reserve at Guillemont Camp

26th to 28th December in trenches at Guedecourt

28th to 31st December in reserve at Guillemont

1917. 1st to 3rd January

Trenches at Sailly-Saillisel

3rd to 6th January at Camp XVIII at Carnoy.

any help would be fantastic

- Graham

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trenchtrotter

Having walked this area for the first time this March ( visited bits every now and then but never in depth) found the area fascinating. It is a forgotton part of the Somme as is much of the Oct / Nov battlefield.

Recommend a study.

TT

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haydnjarrett
Hi.

Looking for Trench Map covering the area of Mild and Cloudy Trenches, ideally, October 16.

Thanks in advance, Chris.

We are travelling this weekend to Gueudecourt in remembrance of a friend of mine's Grandfather Sargeant Bob Eades of the 2nd South Wales Borderers, killed on 20th October 1916 at Cloudy Trench Gueudecourt. He is remembered on Thiepval memorial. We understand that Cloudy trench cemetery was relocated to Bancourt cemetery and he may be one of the unknown laid to rest there. Is this likely?

Thanks for all the helpful trench map details in advance.

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Christine Johnson

Hello,

I'm new to this but I'm looking for a trench map that shows Support trench, Bull trench, Pioneer trench, or maybe Cavalry trench near Flers Wood and Gueudecourt. (I'm confused by varying accounts) I am researching the death of an Australian soldier, 4751 Private Eric Simson Bisset.

I am an artist and want to use a map as part of an image.

I would appreciate help with a map that shows these trenches.

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WhiteStarLine

Hi Christine and welcome to the forum.  Someone will come along with a really good map for you.  I checked the collections from the National Library of Scotland and McMaster University without success.  According to the unit war diary, the trench names for the 46th Battalion on 14 November 1916 were:

 

Front Line: Grease Trench.  Located at Sheet 57C  N.21.d.36 to Goodwins Post N20.b.51

Support Line: Pioneer Trench N.32.a

Battalion HQ Needle Trench N.26.c.32

 

I didn't find mention of Bull or Cavalry trench in the battalion unit war diary or the 12th Infantry Brigade (their headquarters).  Good luck with your search and we hope you will share your image when your research is complete!

 

Here is a 1916 map showing square N with these squares and some German trenches:

 

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Don Regiano
6 hours ago, WhiteStarLine said:

Hi Christine and welcome to the forum.  Someone will come along with a really good map for you.  I checked the collections from the National Library of Scotland and McMaster University without success.  According to the unit war diary, the trench names for the 46th Battalion on 14 November 1916 were:

 

Front Line: Grease Trench.  Located at Sheet 57C  N.21.d.36 to Goodwins Post N20.b.51

 

 

 

Another map showing Grease Trench:

 

 

Gueudecourt_map_1916.jpg

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Don Regiano

The start of Grease Trench at 21. d. 3. 6 is approximately where the red and white marker is in this photo looking down towards Guedecourt:

 

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and this is looking generally in the direction of the advance in October 1916

 

 

 

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Christine Johnson

Thank you for your replies WhiteStarLine and Don Regiano,

I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this.

I need to find a high res image of a map of the place where ES Bisset died, so I am attaching a link to these Red Cross Society accounts - perhaps they will mean more to you - if you have time to examine them we could get more specific.

 https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/RCDIG1038269/document/5625937.PDF

I also have some questions about how to read the maps. Could you please explain how to interpret these locations for example?

19 hours ago, WhiteStarLine said:

Sheet 57C  N.21.d.36 to Goodwins Post N20.b.51

I saw an aerial shot of the region on this feed from egbert. Does this tally with the trench maps we are looking at?

Best wishes and thank you for answering my questions. 

Christine

 

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