Albert Hunt Sherwood Foresters

[harlor]

I know this is a stab in the dark but I have hit a brick wall and any info will be helpful. My Great Grandfather William Henry Collins adopted from within his family unofficially two sons.

One was Albert Hunt who enlisted in the Sherwood Foresters in 1914/15 at the age of 23/24 years, he lived on Whittington Moor, Chesterfield and would have enlisted at either Chesterfield or Derby. I know he was killed in the war but have no year of death.

William Henry Collins won the DCM and survived the war and lived to be 81 years old, the other adopted son CSM Edward Else MM was killed in action in France in 1917. Hopefully someone out there has some information to get me going again.

[Stebie9173]

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission site has three possibles for Albert Hunt, PROVIDED he was with the Sherwood Foresters when he died.

Name: HUNT, ALBERT VICTOR

Initials: A V

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)

Unit Text: 17th Bn.

Age: 19

Date of Death: 03/09/1916

Service No: 28799

Additional information: Son of James and Susannah Hunt, of 67, Mitchell St., Radford, Notts.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 10 C 10 D and 11 A.

Cemetery: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

This man is too young and the next of kin details are not a match.

Name: HUNT

Initials: A E

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Lance Corporal

Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 11/03/1915

Service No: 11718

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 26 and 27.

Cemetery: LE TOURET MEMORIAL

No details provided by family. Possible...

Name: HUNT

Initials: A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)

Unit Text: 12th Bn.

Date of Death: 21/06/1916

Service No: 15436

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: II. E. 184.

Cemetery: BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD)

No details. Also possible...

Can someone do a Soldiers Died Great War check on these, please?

We need to identify and at least eliminate these men before spreading the net wider...

The list of Albert Hunt's on the Medal Index Cards lists 7 (though there may be some that the search hasn't scooped up)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...=1&mediaarray=*

Steve.

[Stebie9173]

Edward Else MM would be:

Name: ELSE, EDWARD

Initials: E

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Company Serjeant Major

Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment)

Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Age: 25

Date of Death: 27/04/1917

Service No: 11480

Awards: MM

Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth Else, of 24, Rosanna St., Deptford, Sunderland.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: I. H. 2.

Cemetery: ST. PATRICK'S CEMETERY, LOOS

The MM announcement appeared in the London Gazette on 22-1-1917 (Published 19-1-1917) and would probably have been won in about October 1916. Two of the Bedfordshire Regiment medals on the same page seem to be for early November 1916, and a third for mid-probably 12th-October 1916...

11480 Sjt. E. Else, Notts. & Derby R.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

His MICs are here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...=1&mediaarray=*

Click on the see details butons to go to the download page for each.

In order : Mention in despatches x 2 (/24 suffix), MM (/23 suffix) and Service Medals (full name)

Each costs £3.50 to download. The Service Medals one gives a small amount of detail about his service. The MM & MID ones give dates of Gazette announcment and unit.

See the Long Long Trail link at the top of the page and read Grandads War for more aout these various medals.

Sorry if I've just covered ground you have covered already,

Steve.

[Stebie9173]

William Henry Collins

MIC:

Medal card of Collins, William H

Corps Regiment No Rank

Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment 48063 Acting Corporal

Labour Corps 16333 Acting Corporal

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...1&resultcount=1

He may have transferred to the Labour Corps later in the war due to his age. The Labour Corps was formed 1-1-1917 so it is likely that this was his later unit.

Steve.

[Greenwoodman]

From SDGW, further details on possible Albert Hunt(s):-

A E Hunt born and enlisted Nottingham, resident Bridgford, Notts

A V Hunt born and enlisted Nottingham, resident Radford, Notts

A Hunt No 15436 is Arthur Hunt, born Cotmanhay, Derbys., enlisted Derby, resident Ilkeston, Derbys.

SDGW lists two more from a search for A Hunt, an Alfred James Hunt and an Arthur Butler Hunt.

When searching on Albert Hunt, only one other candidate emerges whose profile is even remotely close - Albert Hunt, A/Cpl, 46847, Royal Garrison Artillery, kia 23/09/18, France & Flanders, born Whittington Moore, Derbys., enlisted Nottingham, resident Kirkby-in-Ashfield, Notts.

[Stebie9173]

From Greenwoodsman's search for Albert Hunt:

Name: HUNT

Initials: A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Corporal

Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery

Unit Text: V/4th Heavy Trench Mortar Bty.

Date of Death: 23/09/1918

Service No: 46847

Additional information: Husband of Mrs. Hunt, of 39, Mayfield Rd., Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: III. A. 21.

Cemetery: LEBUCQUIERE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

From MIC index:

Medal card of Hunt, Albert

Corps Regiment No Rank

East Kent Regiment 6853 Private

Royal Garrison Artillery 46847 Gunner Acting Corporal

East Kent Regiment 6853 Acting Corporal

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...1&resultcount=1

Of those listed so far, it seems 11718 A E Hunt and Greenwoodsman's Albert are the best candidates.

Is there definitely a Sherwood Foresters connection for Albert?

Steve.

[harlor]

Many thanks for your excellent information, the Albert Hunt born on Whittington Moor sounds right as that is where he was born and his family moved to Kirby in Ashfield. The Sherwood Forester connection came from my Father who is now 85 years old. Many thanks

William Henry Collins

MIC:

Medal card of Collins, William H

Corps Regiment No Rank

Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment 48063 Acting Corporal

Labour Corps 16333 Acting Corporal

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...1&resultcount=1

He may have transferred to the Labour Corps later in the war due to his age. The Labour Corps was formed 1-1-1917 so it is likely that this was his later unit.

Steve.

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