No chapter titles in end-notes

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, Michael Pegum said:

I think that there should be a distinction between notes or comments on the one hand and citations – the sources of information – on the other.

 

      Hear,hear- A return to traditional values. I have a liking for some old- time historians of the earlier part of the Twentieth century- who wrote and researched good history but also had a good literary style- My favourite is John Holland Rose, a scholar of the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars (which as GWF members will know was the "Great War"before the 1914 thingy came along). (PS-Dumouriez and the Defence of England against Napoleon is my favourite)  And Robert Seton-Watson, whose  "Britain in Europe" is a well-researched history of British foreign policy in the Nineteenth Century.  Footnotes were the place for amusing sidelines, anecdotes,etc-not the modern practice where "Notes" often look like a page of computer software writing.   (Andrew Roberts on Lord Salisbury is a good example of having the entertaining notes as you go along-can't for the life of me remember whether they are footnotes or end-notes.

[Fattyowls]

Fascinating stuff all. I'm thinking of pulling my writing into a book¹ and this erudite discussion will help a lot. Much appreciated.

 

Pete.

 

1. I am in the fortunate position of being able to ask my reader what style he would prefer.

[Hedley Malloch]

I don't know if it is common knowledge here or not, but there is a specialist piece of software called EndNote which manages bibliographies, references, footnotes and endnotes.  It sits on top of Word and it enables all of the aforementioned to be reconfigured according to one's wishes at the touch of a button.  It's called EndNote and details can be found here.  http://www.adeptscience.co.uk/products/refman/endnote.  It takes some getting to know.  History is not like other fields of study in that it relies more than any other on footnotes and endnotes, but EndNotes pays dividends once the rudiments are mastered.  Lots of tutorials on the University of Life website (or Youtube as it is sometimes better known).  The cost is £199, or £80 for a student.

[David Filsell]

I prefer real foot notes, but they are uncomfortable when formatting a typed page on word when you know you will be revising and repaginating your pages. I do rather like the Increasingly common US habit of using page number referencing.

[Hedley Malloch]

2 hours ago, David Filsell said:

I prefer real foot notes, but they are uncomfortable when formatting a typed page on word when you know you will be revising and repaginating your pages. I do rather like the Increasingly common US habit of using page number referencing.

 

David, EndNote (see post 28) does this for you automatically.

[David Filsell]

 Noted, thank you.

David

 

[Moonraker]

On 7/5/2017 at 16:56, Moonraker said:

... I've just started reading From Blackout to Bungalows by Julie Davis, comprising 650 very full pages about Wiltshire in the Second World War. It's been written to a high academic standard, with 99 pages of bibliographic endnotes, which is the highest proportion of pages that I can remember..

 

Moonraker

I spent part of today browsing in Oxford bookshops and came away feeling that more books are being written as academic theses and then published commercially. Nathaniel Philbrick's The Last Stand, appears not to fall into this category, but his main text finishes on p312 - followed by appendices, 92 pages of end notes and 27 pages of bibliography. The notes do fulfil a very useful function in discussing and comparing varying accounts and sources.

 

The Last Stand is about the Battle of the Little Big Horn in 1876, but to get back on-topic, in

 

Robert Gerwath's The Vanquished - why the first world war failed to end

 

the main body of the book finishes on p167, and pp168-355 comprise the end notes and pp356-418 the bibliography.

 

Moonraker

 

Edited 9 November , 2017 by Moonraker

[Moonraker]

On 15/07/2017 at 16:55, Hedley Malloch said:

I don't know if it is common knowledge here or not, but there is a specialist piece of software called EndNote which manages bibliographies, references, footnotes and endnotes.  It sits on top of Word and it enables all of the aforementioned to be reconfigured according to one's wishes at the touch of a button.  It's called EndNote and details can be found here.  http://www.adeptscience.co.uk/products/refman/endnote.  ...

I've just read an impressive self-published book and even I would have suggested only a couple of changes to the excellent text. There are one or two footnotes on most pages, and occasionally these over-run on to the next page, in a few cases by just one line. Here and there I pondered how I "would get that line (or those lines) back" for a neater look. In two or three cases it would have been possible to delete a couple of words from the footnote, in others it might have been necessary to have altered the main text by a few words, which can lead to unwanted knock-on effects. All quite time-consuming for the author and production company, with the risk of errors arising. This happened in one of my books, where I noticed a very minor infelicity that had not featured in my original copy (and which I should have picked up when reading the proofs).

 

The main body of text had been laid out very well, with none of those annoying "widow & orphan" lines - the first or last lines of a paragraph being on their own at bottom or top of the page.

 

Moonraker