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Tim Godden
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Tim,

I can send you any 13th Battalion men if you want.

Eve,

James is the only Hayton on the CD of the Tweedale Memorial which is strange as William is most definitely there!!

Aye

Malcolm

Dear Malcolm

I am not sure if you are still available to offer photographs, but if so, I would like to ask you if you have a photograph of the grave of Adam Falconer who was buried in Millencourt Communal Cemetery extension. Grave E.22.

He was with the 13th Royal Scots and died on 16th September 1916 in a field ambulance.

Thanks very much.

regards

Janice

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Hi Janice

Here is link to CWGC - http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...?casualty=43853

If you click on the cemetery details at the bottom it will give you a picture of the cemetery and descriptions

also TWGPP - http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1195639

looks like the photo will be loaded soon - so contact them or just keep looking

You have to donate to get the photo but it is worth it

regards

Robert

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Hello All

I'm just starting out and quickly seem to have reached a dead end. My Great Uncles and Great Grandfather were all in the Royal Scots. I have only been able to find one record - the Medal Rolls Card for GtUncle William Macdonald which shows him to have been a Lance Corporal and then a Corporal No. 23223 in 12th battalion Royal Scots entering France 2nd October 1915. I haven't been able to find any further records (? lost in the London bombing?) and no sign of his or his brother's deaths. Should I be looking somewhere specific as I understand they were both killed? Could Will have changed from Royal Scots without it showing on his medal card?

Andrew was in the rifle brigade in Hampshire in the 1911 census. Does this have any bearing on where I may find his records?

Finally, their father lied about his age (he was born 1868) and when this was discovered he was returned home. Might I find records for him?

I would be very grateful for any help anyone could provide.

Best wishes

Tania

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Hi tania

I am a wee bit confused about William MacDonald, what evidence do you have that he died during the war?

His medal card seems to indicate that he went on to the Z Reserve at the end of the war.

Also there is no trace of him dying on either the CWGC or on the Scottish National War Memorial.

John

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Hello John

Yes, I am starting to doubt what I had picked up through family stories now. But having heard he had 'died in the war', and not finding any record of a William Macdonald dying in Brighton subsequent to the war, I was running with that original premise. Unfortunately none of my family is alive to give information (apart from my younger brother) so I have been relying heavily on memory.

I'm guessing I am stuck if I cannot find any other records for him.

best wishes

Tania

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Tania,

Like John I was a wee bit confused with your information but your previous post makes the reason clear.

Can you list all the details you know of the Family i.e. The names of the Brothers who may have served in the Royal Scots,The Name of their Father and which Regiment he may have served,etc,etc.

Just be factual,we all suffer from Family stories,especially WW1 ones. :lol:

George

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Tania,

Like John I was a wee bit confused with your information but your previous post makes the reason clear.

Can you list all the details you know of the Family i.e. The names of the Brothers who may have served in the Royal Scots,The Name of their Father and which Regiment he may have served,etc,etc.

Just be factual,we all suffer from Family stories,especially WW1 ones. :lol:

George

Hello George

Now there is the core of the problem. I have so little info. I'm afraid. The brothers were Andrew Macdonald b. 1892 and William Macdonald born around 1896. Their father was Andrew Marcas Macdonald born 1866. All 3 were born in Brighton. I know the fate of AM Macdonald but I can find no record of the other two after the War. They may have moved away from Sussex though & so would be very hard to trace.

All I have found is William's MIC which confirms that he at least was in the Royal Scots. I can find no other records for him or his brother and father. The only other information is that I think they joined up with Harry Briggs - a family friend, also from Sussex. Plus Andrew Macdonald (the younger Andrew) was in the Rifle Brigade.

It is all rather scanty I'm afraid. I hoped those of you with knowledge of the Royal Scots might have been able to give me some pointers but I know it is a tall order!

Thanks

Tania

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Hi folks just to let you know I have just added 200 pictures on my website from the personal album of an officer in the 8th RS.

I am very grateful to Tom Gordon at the RS Museum for allowing me to access the material, some have been enhanced others have still to be done.

A mammoth task in the pipeline will be to transfers hundreds of others I have from the newspapers over, that could be a wee while yet.

In the meantime Box Brownie at War

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Just to let you know folks added a couple of hundred photos from mid 1915 to early 1916 covering virtually every battalions, but 4th to 9th battalions the most prevalent.

John

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Good afternoon everyone,

This is my first post. My grandfather John Crawford McNeill was a miner from Tranent in East Lothian who was in the 8th Royal Scots and mobilised at the outbreak of the war. He returned at the end of the war as a Colour Sergeant I believe. I am told he was awarded the first DCM in the battalion whilst acting as a runner in one of their first actions. I am anxious to find out all I can about his movements and activities during the war. I have a copy of the London Gazette entry but am interested in more detail as to where and when he served. Can anyone suggest avenues of enquiry?

Thanks.

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Im researching or trying to the 9th Royal Scots a Sgt Peter Grant KIA 23rd March 1918

MC....looking for a war diary but no luck yet .

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Good afternoon everyone,

This is my first post. My grandfather John Crawford McNeill was a miner from Tranent in East Lothian who was in the 8th Royal Scots and mobilised at the outbreak of the war. He returned at the end of the war as a Colour Sergeant I believe. I am told he was awarded the first DCM in the battalion whilst acting as a runner in one of their first actions. I am anxious to find out all I can about his movements and activities during the war. I have a copy of the London Gazette entry but am interested in more detail as to where and when he served. Can anyone suggest avenues of enquiry?

Thanks.

Afternoon Euan your Grandfather Pte 885 J C McNeill (here is his picture) was an original member of the 8th and went to France 5th November,1914,I have the official history of the 8th on my website Newbattle at War, you are correct about the award of the DCM, it's recorded in the war diary entry of 9th June,1915 for Gallantry at the Battle of Festubert.

There plenty I can tell you about the 8th , feel free to contact me. Oh and welcome to the Forum

John

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Im researching or trying to the 9th Royal Scots a Sgt Peter Grant KIA 23rd March 1918

MC....looking for a war diary but no luck yet .

I have of copy of the 9th's War Diary , I will have a look for you, it featured lots of names early doors in the war but less so as the war progressed.

John

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One of the men of my project was in the 3rd Bn. Royal Scots.

He was Private Fred Binns and he died of liver cancer in 1916 aged just 33. He'd served for 15 years in the Army.

I have a page about him here which I had still to add his service records, which I've recently downloaded from Ancestry:

Men of Worth - Private Fred Binns

I've just recently discovered he is on the Burnley Roll of Honour so I'll be looking into that when I get the time (apparently he enlisted there).

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9th War Diary 22/23rd March,1918

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PS SNWM have killed on the 24th March.

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This might be your man Back row 2nd from left

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Afternoon Euan your Grandfather Pte 885 J C McNeill (here is his picture) was an original member of the 8th and went to France 5th November,1914,I have the official history of the 8th on my website Newbattle at War, you are correct about the award of the DCM, it's recorded in the war diary entry of 9th June,1915 for Gallantry at the Battle of Festubert.

There plenty I can tell you about the 8th , feel free to contact me. Oh and welcome to the Forum

John

Thanks very much, the picture is one I have not seen before. I will look at your website and get back to you. The help is much appreciated.

Euan

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Hello,

I am researching two brothers who spent some time in the Royal Scots.

Oswald Horne Walker according to the University of Edinburg Record of War Service joined the 2/9th RS April 1915 as a private but was commissioned 2nd Lt to the 4th HLI in Sept 1915, Lt., July 1917 relinquished comm. 1 Apr., 1920. I haven't been able to find a MIC for him but have all the relevant LG entries as well as the information from the George Heriot's School Roll of Honour. Is it possible all his service was in Britain? Waiting on his record of service for more details. Would be interested in any info on 2/9th, beyond that in the LLT, for the period Apr - Sept 1915.

Thomas Gambier Presland Walker, 2373. Joined 9th RS Sept 1914 as private. MIC says entered France 24/2/1915. Promoted to Corporal, then Lance Sjt. Wounded Nov. 1916. Commisioned 2nd Lt. to the 1/7th Gordon Highlanders, July 1916. Lt with same Bn Jan 1918, transferred ?? to Territorial Force Reserve, July 1918 retaining rank of Lt. I have all the relevant LG entries as well as the entries in the George Heriot's School Roll of Honour, and the Universty of Edinburgh Record of War Service. Waiting on his record of service. I would be very interested in any War Diary mentions, and especially entries for actions Nov 1916 during which he may have been wounded.

And of course pics of either would be terrific.

Thanks,

Al

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I have of copy of the 9th's War Diary , I will have a look for you, it featured lots of names early doors in the war but less so as the war progressed.

John

John that would be great even he no mention of him just the details of the battalion on the day he died thanks MC

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John that would be great even he no mention of him just the details of the battalion on the day he died thanks MC

Hi posts 265 to 267 mate.

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Thanks John .Thats excellent MC

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Afternoon Euan your Grandfather Pte 885 J C McNeill (here is his picture) was an original member of the 8th and went to France 5th November,1914,I have the official history of the 8th on my website Newbattle at War, you are correct about the award of the DCM, it's recorded in the war diary entry of 9th June,1915 for Gallantry at the Battle of Festubert.

There plenty I can tell you about the 8th , feel free to contact me. Oh and welcome to the Forum

John

Is it possible to get a look at the entry for the 9th June? How would I get hold of a copy of the war diary? Kew or the Castle? I presume J C McNeill was in Company B. I have looked at the official history of the 8th on the Newbattle website and it was very informative. Thanks. Incidentally John McNeill went on to have four children, one of whom was lost in WW2 (RAF Coastal Command Cyprus), one served in the parachute regiment in WW2. He was I believe tasked with escorting the colours to Edinburgh at wars end and went back to Tranent and into the mines after the war. His back was seriously injured whilst underground and after long rehabilitation he ended up as aschool caretaker. He was also Provost of Tranent for a time. He died in 1968.

Cheers,

Euan

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Euan,

War Diary entry,there may be a copy at the Castle as this is where my photocopy came from, thanks to John.

9th June 1915-No. 885 Pte.J.McNeill 8th Royal Scots)No. 1637 Pte J.Herd R.A.M.C.attached) awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal for Gallant Conduct in the field.

It may be possible to find a copy of the Battalion History locally as it was originally printed in a booklet form.My copy which was transcribed and now appears on John's web-site was purchased by my Father, whose two Brothers were killed whilst serving with the 8th,shortly after the end of the War.If you want an electronic copy of the History p.m. me your e-mail address and I'll forward but you may have to make a couple of more posts, on the Forum, before being able to use the p.m. facility.

George

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This might be your man Back row 2nd from left

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Hi John is this picture come any bigger size If so i could send you my email address to get a larger one .I have another 2 other brothers to Peter, a Duncan and William. Duncan was also killed on the 23rd of March as well but he was in the 23rd R Fusilers/17th R Fusiliers .Also this Father Thomas Grant medals from boer war and WW1 RFA so 4 groups in all

Thanks Tony

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