Terry_Reeves Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 To take up Tom's challenge: I was the son of a plasterer, and became an MP. I was a railway navvy and militant trades unionist, and raised three infantry battalions. More clues tomorrow if nobody gets it tonight. Terry Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernardmcilwaine Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 ker hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 11 June , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Not Keir Hardy I'm afraid Bernard. Terry Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernardmcilwaine Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desmond7 Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Alfred Bigland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypres1418 Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Terry, where's todays clues? Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Terry, where's todays clues? Mandy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Promises, promises, mandy - I've been lurking since midnight looking for the next clues! Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 11 June , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Not Alf Bigland I'm afraid Des. Mandy, your quick off the mark! I was arrested in Trafalgar Square for a breach of the peace, but later became a JP. I wore a sombrero whilst sitting in the House of Commons. I commanded one of the battalions I raised, which was from the Home Counties, in Hong Kong and later in Siberia, where I stole a train and fell out with the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 11 June , 2005 Share Posted 11 June , 2005 Not Alf Bigland I'm afraid Des. Mandy, your quick off the mark! I was arrested in Trafalgar Square for a breach of the peace, but later became a JP. I wore a sombrero whilst sitting in the House of Commons. I commanded one of the battalions I raised, which was from the Home Counties, in Hong Kong and later in Siberia, where I stole a train and fell out with the Japanese. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Could it be Colonel John Ward MP? Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 12 June , 2005 Author Share Posted 12 June , 2005 Well done Marina. He founded the Navvies Union in 1886 and later became the MP for Stoke on Trent. He raised the 18th and 19th (Public Works) Bn's of the Middlesex Regiment and also the 25th Garrison Bn, which he commanded. Many of the men in these battalions were members of his union. Terry Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeppoSapone Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 No relation to the earlier John Ward MP I presume? A prayer written by John Ward MP in 1727 O Lord, you know that I have nine houses in the city of London, and that I have recently purchased an estate in Essex. Please keep the two counties of Middlesex and Essex from fires and earthquakes. And, as I have also a mortgage in Hertfordshire, I beg you also to have an eye of compassion on that county, and the rest of the counties you may treat as you like. O Lord, help the banks to meet all their bills and make all debtors good men. Give prosperous voyage and safe return to the ship Mermaid because I have not insured it. And because you said "The days of the wicked are short", I trust that you will not forget your promise as I will inherit an estate on the death of that worthless young man Sir J.L.... Keep my friends from sinking, preserve me from thieves and housebreakers, and make all my servants so honest and faithful that they may always attend to my interests, and never cheat me out of my property night and day. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 Well done Marina. He founded the Navvies Union in 1886 an later became the MP for Stoke on Trent. He raised the 18th and 19th (Pubilc Works) Bn's of the Middlesex Regiment and also the 25 Garrison Bn, which he commanded. Many of the men in these battalions were members of his union. Terry Reeves <{POST_SNAPBACK}> HOORAY! That's the second question I've got right in a week - but I admit Goggle helped this time. But I've found out about an interesting character I'd never even heard of. He does sound fascinating. Is there a book about him? All I could find on the net was snippets -I d quite like to know the whole story. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 No relation to the earlier John Ward MP I presume? A prayer written by John Ward MP in 1727 O Lord, you know that I have nine houses in the city of London, and that I have ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds a ot like Holy Wullie's Prayer! Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeppoSapone Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 HOORAY! That's the second question I've got right in a week - but I admit Goggle helped this time. But I've found out about an interesting character I'd never even heard of. He does sound fascinating. Is there a book about him? All I could find on the net was snippets -I d quite like to know the whole story. Marina <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Marina He wrote a book called "With the Die-Hards in Siberia" - see here: http://www.naval-military-press.co.uk/books/titles/7304.htm However, you can also read it for nothing http://library.beau.org/gutenberg/1/0/9/7/...2-h/10972-h.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Bull Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 Fascinating - I dd not have a clue who it was but found the information b=very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 12 June , 2005 Share Posted 12 June , 2005 Marina He wrote a book called "With the Die-Hards in Siberia" - see here: http://www.naval-military-press.co.uk/books/titles/7304.htm However, you can also read it for nothing http://library.beau.org/gutenberg/1/0/9/7/...2-h/10972-h.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you, Beppo - I['ve got is svaed. It does look good - had a quick scan of the photos. Will report back! Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 13 June , 2005 Share Posted 13 June , 2005 Marina He wrote a book called "With the Die-Hards in Siberia" - see here: http://www.naval-military-press.co.uk/books/titles/7304.htm However, you can also read it for nothing http://library.beau.org/gutenberg/1/0/9/7/...2-h/10972-h.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beppo - have started reading Colonel Ward's memoir - it's brilliant stuff! 'my only regret was that not a Bolshevik was left alive...' 'On being informed that I was an English officer...' I'm looking forward to the rest - thanks for the link! Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeppoSapone Posted 13 June , 2005 Share Posted 13 June , 2005 Marina Yes, it was interesting. It could be well worth hunting through the other online books that are covered by Project Gutenberg so far. For example, there is also "With British Guns in Italy: A Tribute to Italian Achievement" by Hugh Dalton 'Sometime Lieutenant in the Royal Garrison Artillery' with 12 Illustrations and 3 maps. Published in 1919. See here: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/0/1/0/10107/10107-8.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 13 June , 2005 Share Posted 13 June , 2005 Marina For example, there is also "With British Guns in Italy: A Tribute to Italian Achievement" by Hugh Dalton 'Sometime Lieutenant in the Royal Garrison Artillery' with 12 Illustrations and 3 maps. Published in 1919. See here: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/0/1/0/10107/10107-8.txt <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks - have saved the download page for after Colonel Ward's account! And will definitely have a browse through their index. I see Colonel Ward talks about the Czech Army in his account - there is a novel coming out in July - 'The People's Act Of Love' by James Meek, which tells, among other extraordinary things, of the Czech remnant stranded in Siberia in 1919. It's a great read for anyone who is interested in this period and place. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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