Notts & Der.Officer group photos recently acquired

[stevem49]

Shelagh

Start a new thread giving his name and Regiment. You will then get more replies.

He is the only one listed in the N&D medal roll list. He may have had a 4 digit number which was chnaged to 6 digits later in the war.

He may have been a reservist by 1914 and recalled to the colours.

The 3rd (Reserve) Battalion were based in Plymouth during the war.

The 1st Bn were in India in 1914 and had moved there from Singapore (1906).

Both the regular Battalions would have served in Ireland (home posting)

Have you checked for his service records on Ancestry? Also did he marry or have any kids during WW1? If so it may give his Battalion.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...;resultcount=57

National Archives Medal Index Card although Ancestry also have them. Again the only Michael Barry shown who served with the N&D Regiment.

http://www.armymuseums.org.uk/museums/0000...an-Regiment.htm

The above may also help.

Steve

[BRONNO]

Thanks so much for replying , yes ,I have seen a copy of a medal award with this number and think it maybe my grandfather but am not sure.

I think he may have enrolled whilst the regiment was in Ireland in the early 1900s , and then he served in ww1 and on after that for a long time. But how can i find out more ?? He spent some time in Plymouth as he met his wfe , my grandmother there and spoke about all sorts of far flung places he had visited. Burma ? Before settling in Derby . He lived until he was 98 .

all suugestions appreciated . shelagh . county waterford.

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Steve M

Hello Shelagh, i have searched some records i have and i may have all the information you need. Was your mother Gladys Laura Barry (nee Pellow). BRONNO.

[BRONNO]

Thanks so much for replying , yes ,I have seen a copy of a medal award with this number and think it maybe my grandfather but am not sure.

I think he may have enrolled whilst the regiment was in Ireland in the early 1900s , and then he served in ww1 and on after that for a long time. But how can i find out more ?? He spent some time in Plymouth as he met his wfe , my grandmother there and spoke about all sorts of far flung places he had visited. Burma ? Before settling in Derby . He lived until he was 98 .

all suugestions appreciated . shelagh . county waterford.

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Steve M

Hello Shelagh,

I seem to have lost a previous post i sent to you so i will post this again.

I may be able to provide you with all the information you are looking for. Does Gladys Laura Barry (nee Pellow) ring a bell and was your Grandfather born in Limerick.

BRONNO.

[shelagh barry]

Oh thank you so much for replies and interest . . Yes, Bronno this is my grand father. He was born in 1924 in Annacotty , County Limerick and married Gladys Laura Pellow in 1924.

Gosh this is my 3rd attempt to post a reply , so apologies if I am repeating myself , but I don't think the others have gone , for some reason , that is probably a combination of my hopelessness , excitement and poor eye sight .

Regards from shelagh in waterford.

[BRONNO]

Oh thank you so much for replies and interest . . Yes, Bronno this is my grand father. He was born in 1924 in Annacotty , County Limerick and married Gladys Laura Pellow in 1924.

Gosh this is my 3rd attempt to post a reply , so apologies if I am repeating myself , but I don't think the others have gone , for some reason , that is probably a combination of my hopelessness , excitement and poor eye sight .

Regards from shelagh in waterford.

Well here goes then Shelagh,

There are two men with the name Michael Barry who served with the Sherwood Foresters, as mentioned before there is the 104156 M. Barry but its not him.

I am certain this is your man,

Michael Barry born Limerick, Co Clare, enlisted Limerick and later lived at Derby.

He enlisted 2nd March 1914 when he was aged 19 years and 2 months, he was a Agricultural Labourer by Trade.

He joined the 2nd Battalion Royal Munster Fusiliers as number 10235 Pte M. Barry and went to France with them on the 10th September 1914.

He married at Compton Gifford on the 15th April 1923, son Michael Derrick born Aldershot 24th August 1924, husband of Gladys Laura Barry (nee Pellow).

Transferred to the Sherwood Foresters in 1921 from the Th Royal Munster Fusiliers

with the number 7211372 and was discharged on the 15th January 1936 having claimed discharge after giving three months notice.

In the 1932 Regimental Annual of the Sherwood Foresters it states as wife born of a son John Cowan and a daughter Sheila on 21st January 1932, also in the 1934 annual under the 1st Battalion notes as being with 14th Platoon, "D" Company as a Private.

In the 1935 annual under Depot notes as posted from 1st Battalion to the Depot 1st October 1934.

In the 1935 Regimental Annual under Depot notes as taken on strength the Depot Staff as at 1st September 1935.

In 1936 annual in Depot notes as discharged to pension on the 15th January 1936.

Apart from being awarded the WW1 1914 Star Trio he has the Silver Jubilee Medal (GV), Long Service and Good Conduct Medal. (Foresters).

He was discharged on the 15th January 1936.

BRONNO.

[shelagh barry]

Wow Bronno ,Thank you so much for this information . You have uncovered the info I was looking for . I am so thrilled and my mother sheila barry is absolutely stunned . She wants me to pass on her thanks too. We have always been proud of him .His contribution to www1 and his military service was a family legend but he was a really modest man who did not seem to want talk about his experiences.Hence we did not know any detail .

I really am so grateful. Please could you recomend any books that might give me information regarding the Sherwod Foresters particularly 1921 onwards.?

All the best shelagh barry

[BRONNO]

Wow Bronno ,Thank you so much for this information . You have uncovered the info I was looking for . I am so thrilled and my mother sheila barry is absolutely stunned . She wants me to pass on her thanks too. We have always been proud of him .His contribution to www1 and his military service was a family legend but he was a really modest man who did not seem to want talk about his experiences.Hence we did not know any detail .

I really am so grateful. Please could you recomend any books that might give me information regarding the Sherwod Foresters particularly 1921 onwards.?

All the best shelagh barry

Back again Shelagh, do you recognise the man standing in the centre? very lucky to find this and i hope his legend lives on!!!. In answer to your question about books i'm sorry to say there are none with regards to the Foresters Depot.

The only mentions to the Depot are in the Regimental Histories but i will have a read through them all and see if i can find him mentioned again. kind regards, BRONNO.

[shelagh barry]

how fantastic. would recognise those ears any where ! Thank you. Shame there are no books , from what you have given me he transferred to the Normaton Depot in 1934 , so could I track where he was by following the postings of !st Battalion 14th platoon D company between 1921 and 1934?

If you ever want any photos taken in Ireland or I can help you with irish research let me know,

Regards shelagh

[nsaspdin]

Sheila

Click on this link ( or cut and paste it to your browser if it does not show as a blue underlined hyperlink) and you will see the only bit of wall of Normanton Barracks that remains. Not much I am afraid.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?t=h&hl=e...p=12,18.82,,0,5

Tell me if this does not work for you.

I may be able to find some old images of the barracks if you are after these, or links to some local sites where I know there are some.

Use my email. Your personal message service is shown as disabled, and this is getting a bit off-topic!

Best wishes

Nigel Aspdin

aspdin@gmail.com

Derby UK

[shelagh barry]

Thanks for the information and photos. I do appreciate that photos are usually of officers.

As Suggested I will start a new thread regarding Private Barry.

Bronno do you have the details of when and where the photo was taken and who the other soldeirs are ?

many thanks Shelagh

County Waterford

[BRONNO]

Bronno do you have the details of when and where the photo was taken and who the other soldeirs are ?

many thanks Shelagh

County Waterford

The picture i posted was part of a group photo taken at Normanton Barracks in Derby.

The Officer on the left as you look at the picture is Captain N.S.Temple M.C. who served with the 1st Battalion. He was awarded the Military Cross when serving with the 17th (Welbeck Rangers). He was killed in action on the 1st June 1940 at Dunkirk with the 2nd Battalion the Sherwood Foresters when commanding Temple Force at the time of the evacuation of the B.E.F.

The other officer is the Commanding Officer of the Depot Major R.R.Shawcross who also served with the 1st and 2nd Battalions as well as several others.

Regards, BRONNO.

[Sally B]

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Here are names of Officers from photo 3. but I can't quite make out any from photo 2 but should be possibly recognised from the other pictures. BRONNO.

Officers 5th Battalion Halton 1938.

Back Row,

2/Lt J.E.Fryer, D.D.Wallace, Lt A.S.T.Price, 2/Lt K.T.Williams, Lt L.W.Norfolk, 2/Lt F.J.G.Galligan, Lt S.F.Mill, Lt (QM) J.F.Hallam, Lt E.H.Stafford, 2/Lt P Rook.

Seated.

Capt J.W.S.Fletcher, Capt J.N.Clark-Maxwell, Maj N.A.McD Walker (Adj), Maj P.J.Stokes RAMC, Brig D.M.A.Sole D.S.O. (O.C. 148th Brigade), Lt/Col W.T.Greenfield, TD, Maj Gen Sir F.B.Maurice, K.C.M.G. C.B., LL.D, D.LIT, Lt/Col H.A.F. Crewdson. T.D. (O.C. 8th Battalion), Maj J.H.ROE, TD, Maj B.D.Shaw, MM, Capt P.M.Robinson, Capt F.W.Barnett, Rev A Inglis, C.F.

In Front.

2/Lt E.J.Morgan, N.S.Thorpe, G.S.Aspdin.

Rather late, sorry. As G S Aspdin was my father I can personally vouch the correctness of him, and also, as I remember them as friends of my father in latter years, J.E. (Jack) Fryer and F.W. (Jack) Barnett. I too have a copy of this photo. It is marked Halton Camp, near Lancaster, July 1938.

I know this is not really a GWF matter, but looking out the photo I came across this photo of the 5th Battalion Sherwood Forester children's party, December 1955, at Beckett Street Drill Hall. That is me dressed as a policeman giving the magician a hard time having pinched his rat. My Father G S Aspdin, by then commanding the 5th Battalion, is on the right. Who can tell me if the silver Crich Stand, and indeed the other piece, are still in use anywhere. I remember the Crich Stand so well in the officers' mess at Beckett Street.

Nigel Aspdin

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Nigel I have just come across this photograph and I think the little girl with the white dress and cardigan, standing up, is Amanda, daughter of Brig. Robert James Wilkins.