Medal Group

[Auimfo]

Is anyone out there able to help me value a medal group. I'm not into medal collection/selling so have no real idea. They belonged to a friend's GGrandfather and aren't for sale but he asked if I could possibly find out an approximate value. After reading a few posts here and naturally being a little suspicious of medal dealers anyway, I thought the most honest opinions would come from pals here.

The medals include:

Crimea Medal 1855

Turkish Crimea Medal (British Issue)

Egypt 1882

Khedives Star 1882

Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee Medal 1897 (Silver)

These medals belonged to General Frederick Gaspar Le Grand of the Royal Marine Light Infantry.

I know there are probably a lot of things that can affect the value of medals but I'm really only looking for a rough 'guesstimate" to give my friend some idea.

Thanks

Tim L.

[Pte1643]

Crimea Medal 1855£100

Turkish Crimea Medal (British Issue)£100

Egypt 1882£100

Khedives Star 1882£60

Queen Victoria Diamond Jubilee Medal 1897 (Silver)£100

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Tim.

These prices are fairly "In the Ball Park".

You haven't stated if any of the medals have "Clasps" attached, so Just gave a rough idea based on the fact that none have. (Differing Clasps will affect the prices).

Then, of course, you have to add a little on to allow for them being all to the same man, as the estimates are based on singular medals.

Maybe another Pal will be able to give a more precise answer, but I think they'll be somewhere close.

Mark.

[PhilB]

Do those estimates take into account his being a general RMLI? Phil B

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ouch

[Auimfo]

Thanks Mark,

Sorry - yes the Crimea Medal has a 'Sebastapol' clasp. I did much the same as you and priced the medals individually but there was a bit of variation depending on where you looked.

And as Phil suggested, I wondered if the fact they were a complete group that belonged to a RMLI General would have any effect on the value.

Tim L.

[GavinH]

Tim,

It certainly would effect the value. It's a difficult group to put an estimate on as it's an unusual combination, as well as being to a high ranking officer. If I had to have a stab at it, I would suggest £2500-£3000, but could be well out.

Regards

Gavin

[DirtyDick]

To a general I would think even more: groups such as these - possibly unique combinations - always attract high prices, irrespective of general trends in medal prices.

Given his rank and regiment I would suggest nearer £8,000.

However, as stated such groups are rarely encountered: might make half this, might make double.

Richard

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As well as his overall rank other additions could come from what ranks are on the medals, which clasps did he get for Egypt, how much supporting paperwork does he have? What did he get the Jubilee Medal for: if Le Grand was the Colonel Commandant of one of the Divisions or ADC to the Queen, at the time of the Jubilee that will add another premium. As will anything interesting in his record of service such as an MID.

[Auimfo]

Thanks for all your input. It's obviously not all black and white and there are many variables but at least you have given me an idea of possible values and what to look for.

If I get a chance in the next week I will take a photo of the group and post it so we all know what we're talking about. I'll also have a closer look at the medals and find out a little more detail (now I know some things to look for).

As for Le Grand's service record - I imagine it's filed at the PRO in London but unfortunately my friend and I have no upcoming plans for a trip to England so I'll have to talk to him about obtaining the services of a researcher - does anyone here have the name of a reputable researcher?

Thanks again for your help,

Tim L.

[Pte1643]

Sorry - yes the Crimea Medal has a 'Sebastapol' clasp.  I did much the same as you and priced the medals individually but there was a bit of variation depending on where you looked.

And as Phil suggested, I wondered if the fact they were a complete group that belonged to a RMLI General would have any effect on the value.

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Tim.

Firstly the addition of any Clasps to the medals (dependant on the actual clasp of course) will generally increase the value.

The Approx' values I gave were taken from the last years medal yearbook (I quoted the "Higher" estimate, to acount for the inflation of prices factor over a year), as Victorian medals are out of my field of interest generally (and price range usually), I had little else to go on. But I think the values "Individually" should be fairly "In the Ball Park" as our American friends would say.

Secondly.

Sorry, I am guilty of not reading your post accurately enough. I have blundered over the fact that your man was a General. This will, of course, have quite a significant affect on the value.

Your quite possibly looking at a few Thousand, as has been suggested.

Very nice group you have there BTW.

Mark.