WOII P. Ogan Australian Instructional Staff

[tankengine888]

Hello!

I was reading confidential reports from a School of Instructional held in Albury in 1912. One attendee was Sergeant P. Ogan

His description was described as such:
22 Years Imperial Army, Ex Colour Sergeant. Requires strict observation. Bad Rider. With his long experience in the Imp. Army, he should have done better; requires to be under strict supervision. (I) am somewhat doubtful of his character.

Where is his First War connection- His appointment as WO2 in the Australian Instructional Staff was terminated in February 1918.

I am seeking further details on this Ogan fellow.

Zidane.

[PRC]

7 hours ago, tankengine888 said:

22 Years Imperial Army, Ex Colour Sergeant. Requires strict observation. Bad Rider. With his long experience in the Imp. Army, he should have done better; requires to be under strict supervision. (I) am somewhat doubtful of his character.

Is this not Patrick Ogan, signed up for the Permanent Force on the 17th June 1912, stating 22 years and 69 days previous service. There are two statement of services in the file and the one to use is the last, (page 23). The first gives information that is then contradicted by other statements in the file.

Manchester Regiment, (24.5.89 to 30.6.97. reached rank of Sergeant), (25.5.89 on the first version)
Northamptonshire Regiment, (1.7.97 to 23.4.08) and
Indian unattached list, (24.4.08 to 31.7.11, finished as Color Sergeant Instructor).
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3419485&isAv=N

Served at No.3 Special School of Instruction, Albury, NSW when initially enlisted. Was disciplined in 1912 for making false statements to a senior officer and severely reprimanded.

War time paperwork refers to him being on the Instructional Staff - when he re-engaged on the 17th June 1917 location was given as Sydney and his medical took place at the Military Hospital, Victoria Barracks, Sydney. There are also references to No.2 Military District. There are references to him still serving in 1919 but on the unattached list Supply and Transport.

He was offered the chance of a commission in January 1917* while serving with 2nd Military District., District Head Quarters, Victoria Barracks, Sydney. he agreed but there is no follow up.
*Letter dated 3rd January 1916, but date stamped received at Victoria Barracks 5th January 1917.

His character reference issued after discharge also references service with the 2nd Dragoon Guards and the Dorset Regiment, as well as those already mentioned. His war service during that earlier time consisted of 4 years Tirah, Malakand & North West Frontier, 3 years China. He had medals for "Indian Frontier", "China" & "Long Service".

The qualifications shown includes courses passed while serving in India between 1904 & 1909.

There is also a WO 97 series record for an 8841 Sergeant (Color Sergeant Instructor) Patrick Ogan, 2nd Battalion, Dorsetshire Regiment, who was discharged at Poona on the 1st August 1911, having given 3 months notice. His intended place of resident was c\o The President Immigration League, Bulls Chambers, Sydney, Australia. That soldier had the Indian Frontier Medal 1895 with 3 clasps, the China Medal 1900 and the medal for Long Service and Good Conduct. Originally enlisted on the 25th May 1889 for service in the Manchester Regiment, (s\n 2570).

Hope that helps,
Peter

[tankengine888]

Thank you very much Peter.

I didnt find his record, which you so evidently found. 

Quite an interesting character.. I'll have a re-read in the morning.

Zidane.