Donbogen Posted 30 August Share Posted 30 August My latest purchase these are dealers photos it will get it next week matching rack no always been together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 30 August Share Posted 30 August That is very good going to snare a matching numbers pair! Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippingsteel Posted 31 August Share Posted 31 August Not a "Volunteer" bayonet - it has been accepted for regular Army use by the War Department as shown by the W^D mark and bears the Crown VR cypher. It is of course a Patt.1888 Mk.I (2nd type) sword bayonet made by Enfield and dated November 1896. Used on both the Magazine Lee Metford and Magazine Lee Enfield rifles, and a few other carbines as well. Cheers, SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donbogen Posted 31 August Author Share Posted 31 August It was the brown leather frog that fooled me also the scaboard is brown and unmarked other then rank no in the photos it does not look like a brown scaboard but it is Thanks for letting me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 31 August Share Posted 31 August The frog is interesting. Is it a naval variation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 1 September Share Posted 1 September Hey Ross, I think you right on a naval frog, I got bunch different frogs, 4,6,8 rivit type but all have rivits spaced out, the Royal Nave loved to rivit the heck out of all leather ware, and they would keep them close like that. Spot on I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 1 September Share Posted 1 September The best article I know on Royal Navy bayonet frogs is by Derek Complin (see link below). There was a series of booklets on the subject of Bayonet Belt Frogs by Anthony Carter. These have been out of print for decades and sell for a silly price. So the issue of variations of bayonet frogs used with P88 and P1903 bayonets is complex and not readily documented. www.bayonetsplus.com/RN%20bayonet%20belt%20frogs.pdf Unfortunately I only have a single example of the pre1900 naval frogs and am simply unsure if the frog illustrated above is naval or yeomanry. I suspect it is naval but defer to those more expert in the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donbogen Posted 1 September Author Share Posted 1 September Thanks for update on frog very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 1 September Share Posted 1 September (edited) Not an expert but I do have the section of Carter that refers to the British frogs…pic below of the relevant section, He only shows two naval frogs, both much shorter, but lots of rivets. it looks to be a General Service Mk2…there was the buff and the black leather variants but the brown I have always assumed to be used by volunteers or with the 1903 equipment. As you can see they vary, I have one (pic below) missing the bottom rivet's. The frogs are just as interesting as the pointy things to me….saw the listing on Crow Valley, nice find👍👍👍 Dave. Edited 1 September by Dave66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donbogen Posted 1 September Author Share Posted 1 September 4 hours ago, Dave66 said: Not an expert but I do have the section of Carter that refers to the British frogs…pic below of the relevant section, He only shows two naval frogs, both much shorter, but lots of rivets. it looks to be a General Service Mk2…there was the buff and the black leather variants but the brown I have always assumed to be used by volunteers or with the 1903 equipment. As you can see they vary, I have one (pic below) missing the bottom rivet's. The frogs are just as interesting as the pointy things to me….saw the listing on Crow Valley, nice find👍👍👍 Dave. Thank You yes a frog completes the arm all my bayonets are with frogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 1 September Share Posted 1 September No 86 on the diagram I posted it the naval variant…..forgot to mention in my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 1 September Share Posted 1 September Dave thanks for posting the extract from Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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