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Good evening
A friend found this plaque on the Somme :

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Markings on a circular aluminum plate :

A HILL

9845

WES

5 S.STAF

I can't find anything about this soldier.
Thank you in advance for your help.

michel

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Have a look at 40159 Pte Aaron  Hill 

if you have ancestry, if you put in 9845 Hill  

there a pension record for him

Birth
abt 1880
Oldbury-on-Severn, Staffordshire, England
Residence
1914
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55 minutes ago, battle of loos said:

A friend found this plaque on the Somme :

Probably lost on November 21st 1916?

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3 hours ago, thetrenchrat22 said:

Have a look at 40159 Pte Aaron  Hill 

if you have ancestry, if you put in 9845 Hill  

there a pension record for him

Birth
abt 1880
Oldbury-on-Severn, Staffordshire, England
Residence
1914

good evening,

thank's a lot for your answer but It's not possible to open the last link for the pension records.

I havre not in Ancestry account.

regards

michel

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The nuts and bolts of that record are

Aaron Hill
#9845 in 5t S Staffsand later #40159 in Reserve Btn
 
1880 Jul 20 born
1914 Oct 20 embodied aged 34 years & 96 days. A Labourer attached Res Btn
1916 Feb 4, transfer to 28 Res Btn
1916 Jun 30 transfer 5 Reg Btn
1916 Sep 15 Transfer 1/5 Btn
1916 Sep 15 lands in France
1916 Oct 1. Transfer to 7 Btn
1916 Nov 21 Wounded. Shell Shock in field. He was buried alive
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1917 Feb 1 posted back UK
1917 Mar 17 Admitted hospital, shell shock
1917 Jul 20 discharged from hospital
1917 Jul 28 Discharged to longer physically fit (medical)
 
 
 
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His MIC reflects landing in France with #40159

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His army pension form gives NOK

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which gives him in 1911 census on Ancestry

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and 1881 census on Ancestry

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and in 1939 Register on Ancestry living at 17 Shirley Rd, the address on his 1914 NOK info

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So he was born 15 Jan 1875 and not in 20 Jun 1880 as he had on army form. He appears to have taken 5 years off his age in order to enlist

I think he married Eliza Shaw in 1918

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good morning,

great, perfect.

thank's lot for your help.

michel

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He's likely to be the third on the list if born in January 1875:

Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Births Jun 1871   (>99%)
Hill  Aaron    Walsall  6b 635  btnInfo.gif Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1871   (>99%)
Hill  Aaron    Stoke T.  6b 228  btnInfo.gif Scan available - click to view

Births Mar 1875   (>99%)
Hill  Aaron    W. Bromwich  6b 777  btnInfo.gif Scan available - click to view

Births Mar 1878   (>99%)
Hill  Aaron    Wolverhampton  6b 662  
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Aaron HILL, 40159, South Staffordshire Regt. made an unspecified disability pension claim

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Image thanks to WFA/Fold3

Rec: 9.7.17 appears to be the date of receipt [presumably he applied whilst he was stilill in hospital before his discharge]

67807H was his pension claim reference.

Awarded 30/7/17 a £45 Gratuity in lieu of an ongoing pension

Seemingly likely awarded at that date under Article 7 (1) of the 1917 Royal Warrant

"In any case where the degree of disablement is assessed at less than 20 per cent, or where it is considered more in the interest of the soldier, a gratuity or temporary allowance may be granted in place of any pension and children's allowances.  The grant will be subject to such conditions at the Minister of Pensions may determine and its amount will not exceed £200 and will depend on the extent of the disablement and on the circumstances of the case"

For all soldiers so awarded a Gratuity - Who and exactly how a gratuity was to be more in the interest of the soldier is not clearly determined.  Neither are the possible conditions that might have been applied [If anyone has documented evidence I, and no doubt other members, would be pleased to know what those details might have been].

M

Edited by Matlock1418
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I don't know where the tag was found but the diary for the 7th S Staffs. shows them to have taken over trenches at Beaucourt-sur-l'Ancre 20/11/16.

His record says he was wounded shell shock 21/11/16 and the dairy mentions 5 men with shell shock that day.

The following day they had more casualties by shell just east of Beaucourt-sur-l'Ancre 57d.R.7.b.9.1

Could this be the location of the find? I understand if you'd rather not say.

TEW

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