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Randy Wells

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OK, here goes. I have a British officers M1897 sword with George V cypher on guard and blade. Wilkinson made in 1914. Guard is inscribed M.W. Hill , 6th West Yorkshire Regt.All I can find is a record of serving and being promoted from 2nd Lieutenant to Captain. Any other info would be appreciated.

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1 hour ago, Randy Wells said:

I have a British officers M1897 sword with George V cypher on guard and blade. Wilkinson made in 1914. Guard is inscribed M.W. Hill , 6th West Yorkshire Regt.All I can find is a record of serving and being promoted from 2nd Lieutenant to Captain. Any other info would be appreciated.

You lucky chapI

Might be worth splitting this off into a separate thread of its own under this officer's name ?? 

A mention to the moderators, they may spot this and think that way anyway, and this can usually be easily done.

M

Edit: This seems quite likely to be him https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29729/supplement/8583

REGULAR. FORCES. MACHINE GUN CORPS (INFANTRY). The undermentioned 2nd Lte. to be temp. Lts.: — 6 July 1916 ... M. W. Hill (W. York. R. (T.F.)).

Does this match your research?

Further edit: I am further going to more definitely suggest this might be him https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/28918/page/7702

6th Battalion, The Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment); the undermentioned to be Second Lieutenants. Dated 10th September, 1914: — ... Malcolm Walter Hill.

Edit again: For M. W. HILL, West Yorkshire Regiment = three x MIC at Ancestry [presumably at TNA etc.] - one as 2 Lieut and Capt for a 1914-15 Star, BWM & VM , qualifying 18.8.15 [address Whitegates, Ikley] and two as 2nd Lt, West Yorks, for a MiD, LG 22.5.17, page 5029 [duplicate cards] https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30086/supplement/5029 [this appears to be the relevant precursor https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30072 ]

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  • Michelle Young changed the title to M W Hill 6 West Yorkshire Regiment

It looks as though he went on to become a solicitor in Bradford, West Yorkshire postwar, and was practicing up until the mid-1940's at least based on the frequency with which his full name crops up in the Gazette. No sign of an Army officer's personal file at the National Archives however. 

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The birth of a Malcolm Walter Hill was registered in the last quarter of 1891 in Bradford.

HILL, MALCOLM  WALTER  Mother's maiden name: ILLINGWORTH  

GRO Reference: 1891  D Quarter in BRADFORD, YORKSHIRE  Volume 09B  Page 187

His birth postdates the 1891 census, but he can be found in both the 1901 and 1911 England and Wales censuses living with his parents and several older and younger siblings in Bradford. In the 1911 census his occupation is given as articled clerk which then fits with working as a solicitor postwar.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TN-BHK

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNN-4WH

His death at the age of 69 was registered in 1961, FamilySearch just says Yorkshire, but one might suspect it was also registered in Bradford.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCG-FJF1

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From the Law Society Record of Service.

MALCOLM WALTER HILL.

Admitted March 1914. Of Bradford. Joined Sept. 10. 1914, as 2nd Lieut. 6th Batt. West Yorkshire Regt., seconded to Machine Gun Corps Jan. 1916, promoted Lieut. June 1916, Capt. Jan. 1918. Twice mentioned in Dispatches. Served with British Expeditionary Force July 1915 to March 1918 and June 1918 to April 1919. Wounded Sept. 5, 1916.

Cheers,
Peter

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May well be worthwhile checking the 1/6th Battalion War Diary for him. That Battalion was in France from April 1915, so if Malcolm didn't land in France until July 1915 his arrival may be noted. It can be downloaded for free from the UK National Archive if you log in with your account. You will find it in the online catalogue here https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354658

His transfer \ attachment to the Machine Gun Corps may be referenced, while he may also crop up as one of the Battalion Machine Gun Officers.

While the Machine Gun Corps had come into existance in October 1915, individual Divisions were only converted to the new structure of Machine Gun Companys at Brigade level when there were sufficient Vickers machine guns to kit out the men being transferred to the new Machine Gun Corps from their infantry battalion, and sufficient Lewis guns to backfill the lost firepower in each Battalion. The Law Society Record of Service has Malcolm transferring to the MGC in January 1916. It may be a co-incidence, but 6th Battalion, West Yorks, was part of the 49th Division. Our parent site, the Long, Long Trail, has that Division moving to the new structure between the 26th January to the 10th February 1916 with the addition of the 146th, 147th and 148th Companys, Machine Gun Corps. http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/49th-west-riding-division/
Can't be guaranteed that Walter transferred into 146th Company, (1/6th West Yorks were in the 146th Brigade), but likely to be one of the three,

A check of his MiC and the cards at the National Archive for his Mentions in Despatches all reference just the West Yorkshire Regiment so must have been attached to the MGC rather than formally transferred. His MiC has him landing in France on the 18th August 1915 with the 1/6th Battalion. His medals were issued by the West Yorkshire, but that may in part be down to the fact that he didn't apply for them until 1927 and by then the MGC has ceased to exist. At that point in time his contact address was given as Whitegates, Ilkley.

Cheers,
Peter

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Just having a look now and Hill was Officer Commanding Number 2 Section, 146th M.G.C. His wounding, along with 3 O/R's (gun destroyed by shell fire) took place at Hamel, 5th September 1916.

All the best,

Chris

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