Smarchez Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Gunner William Ivor Jones 93082 was my great uncle. He died 30 Nov 1917 at Paschendaele. If anyone has further details, I would love to know. I am hoping to visit his grave next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 November , 2023 Admin Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Welcome to the forum @Smarchez. As you’d posted on a very old thread, I’ve split this into a new separate thread to hopefully get you some more information. To save duplication of effort, what do you already know about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 November , 2023 Admin Share Posted 12 November , 2023 His Medal Index Card shows his entitlement to the War and Victory Medals, meaning he didn’t serve in a theatre of war until after 01/01/1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 He has a surviving service record that shows, inter alia, that he was posted from the Siege Artillery Depot in England to the BEF France on 24/6/17 and joined 217 Siege Battery on 29/6/17. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 I wonder if @mandawa has anything on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 12 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Thank you so much for this info. I'm grateful for anything anyone knows. I feel so connected to him, having found out about him. He was 21 when he died. He was from Colwyn in North Wales. 3 hours ago, charlie962 said: He has a surviving service record that shows, inter alia, that he was posted from the Siege Artillery Depot in England to the BEF France on 24/6/17 and joined 217 Siege Battery on 29/6/17. Charlie So he lasted only five months in that hell hole. Poor William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 12 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 12 November , 2023 5 hours ago, Michelle Young said: Welcome to the forum @Smarchez. As you’d posted on a very old thread, I’ve split this into a new separate thread to hopefully get you some more information. To save duplication of effort, what do you already know about him? Thank you Michelle. 3 hours ago, charlie962 said: He has a surviving service record that shows, inter alia, that he was posted from the Siege Artillery Depot in England to the BEF France on 24/6/17 and joined 217 Siege Battery on 29/6/17. Charlie Thank you Charlie. Can I find this online? I've come to a halt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 16 minutes ago, Smarchez said: Can I find this online? It's on Findmypast (free this weekend I think so hurry!). But I cannot get link to work! Search for surname Jones and service number 93082 and you should get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Ancestry link https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1045351:1219?tid=&pid=&queryId=ec46229b384953fde6be8a6711a09e88&_phsrc=tLN202&_phstart=successSource Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Service Record also available on Ancestry: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1045351:1219?_phsrc=bDw1334&_phstart=successSource&gsln=Jones&ml_rpos=1&queryId=bec788f94800812c1dfb3392a9f81aa1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 12 November , 2023 Share Posted 12 November , 2023 Gosh, Class 3a on medical examination at call-up. 'Fit for Garrison duty abroad'. Must have been caught in the great comb-out of 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandawa Posted 13 November , 2023 Share Posted 13 November , 2023 Good to hear there is still information arriving on the 217th Siege Battery. @Smarchez do you have a picture of Gunner William Ivor Jones 93082 was your great uncle? I have in the past tried to name all the people in the photo I have of the Battery taken in Arras January 1917. I have about 90 names but have so far only managed to have the names of 3 including my Grandfather. I will dig out my research a see if I have Gunner Jones details. I would love to put another name to the faces in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Thank you all for your replies to my message. I'm so grateful for any info. I think there may have been (at least?!) two William Jones in that period in the 217th Siege Battery. It's not an uncommon name in Wales! I think my William Jones died at age 21 in 1917, whereas the record posted above shows an enlistment age of 38. I need to dig deeper and, when I do and have ascertained the correct record (and possibly service number), I'll post again. Perhaps 93082 is the other Wiliam Jones - certainly looks like it. I'll be in touch! Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 PS I do have a photo which I think is 'my' William Jones. I've attached it to see if anyone knows anything about it. He doesn't look 38, so that's a good start. (Also, he looks a lot like my son but perhaps that's just my wishful thinking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: PS I do have a photo which I think is 'my' William Jones. I've attached it to see if anyone knows anything about it. He doesn't look 38, so that's a good start. (Also, he looks a lot like my son but perhaps that's just my wishful thinking). take the photo out and see if it says something on the back of the photo that may help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Hi. I don't have the original and I was told there's nothing on the back, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: Hi. I don't have the original and I was told there's nothing on the back, sadly. thats a shame 1 minute ago, Smarchez said: Hi. I don't have the original and I was told there's nothing on the back, sadly. i can color the photo for you if you want for free! just say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 That would be amazing! Can you do that from that digital copy? It's the only thing I have. The original is in a museum in Devon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: That would be amazing! Can you do that from that digital copy? It's the only thing I have. The original is in a museum in Devon I think. here i even made the photo higher quality i hope you like it! - thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 OMG. That makes me feel quite emotional. Poor little dab. Hopefully, I can now save that from here. Thank you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: OMG. That makes me feel quite emotional. Poor little dab. Hopefully, I can now save that from here. Thank you so much. if not ill find a way for you to save it im sure! - thomas 1 minute ago, Smarchez said: OMG. That makes me feel quite emotional. Poor little dab. Hopefully, I can now save that from here. Thank you so much. i can also try my best to remove the text if you want it removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 4 minutes ago, TomWW1 said: if not ill find a way for you to save it im sure! - thomas I've managed to save it to my desktop. I'll print if off. I'm so grateful. You've really brought WIlliam to life. Thank you. Now I need to do some more detective work as I think I may have confused his paperwork with the other William Jones.... Onward and upward! Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: I've managed to save it to my desktop. I'll print if off. I'm so grateful. You've really brought WIlliam to life. Thank you. Now I need to do some more detective work as I think I may have confused his paperwork with the other William Jones.... Onward and upward! Thanks again. No problem and even if you didnt want the text removed i have made a version just incase anyway! hope you like it. Kind regards, Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarchez Posted 14 November , 2023 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, TomWW1 said: No problem and even if you didnt want the text removed i have made a version just incase anyway! hope you like it. Kind regards, Thomas Thanks Thomas. That's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 14 November , 2023 Share Posted 14 November , 2023 Just now, Smarchez said: Thanks Thomas. That's amazing. Its my honour mate dont worry about it best wishes from oxfordshire! - thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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