Drawing a blank with The National Archives

[Tony Styles]

I’m trying to find medal records for a Quartermaster Sergeant 9427 George Turner, who served with the North Staffordshire Regiment & died on the 1st July 1916. He is buried at Stoke on Trent (Longton) CWGC cemetery so I don’t think he was on the Somme on that date. I’m trying a number of permutations but I cannot find his medal card. Can anyone advise please…?

 

[PRC]

49 minutes ago, Tony Styles said:

I’m trying to find medal records for a Quartermaster Sergeant 9427 George Turner, who served with the North Staffordshire Regiment & died on the 1st July 1916.

Do you have any reason to believe he served outside the UK. Given his age even in August 1914 it would have been fairly close as to whether he was considered too old for field service - it would have come down to fitness I suspect and if he was a long serving regular.

No service outside the UK = no medals.

The 10th Battalion were a home service only training unit, then at Rugeley Camp, Cannock Chase. His entry in the Army Register of Soldiers Effects shows he died in Newcastle-under-Lyme on that day, the balance of his pay, (so still serving) and subsequently his war gratuity going to widow Alice.

Cheers,
Peter

Edited 10 November , 2023 by PRC
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[BarbaraG]

WFA Pension Record Card

Pension Records - Ancestry

 

Edited 10 November , 2023 by BarbaraG

[Tony Styles]

Thank you so much, funny but I didn’t think about that, chances are because of his age he didn’t serve abroad…

Thank you…

[TEW]

The pension record extract is for another Geo. Turner.

TEW

[BarbaraG]

Apologies

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[Tony Styles]

Thank you, the pension card is spot on…

[BarbaraG]

1 minute ago, TEW said:

The pension record extract is for another Geo. Turner.

TEW

Apologies

[PRC]

Relevant entry from the Register of Soldiers Effects does not refer to his wife as a legatee, so I'm assuming no will. Certainly couldn't see a Soldiers Will or a likely entry in the Probate Calendar.

Image courtesy Fold3.

According to Paul Nixons Arny Service number site, the war service battalions of the North Staffordshire Regiment carried on with the service number range in use by the pre-war Regular Army Battalions - and they were already up to 10006 in December 1913. George would not have been a first time recruit c1910/1911 when they are likely to have issued service number 9427 - that number would appear to have been issued to Frederick Hancock for whom there is a MiC and who stayed in the Army post war, so no service record available on genealogy websites. https://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/2010/01/north-staffordshire-regiment-1st-and.html

So I suspect he was a Special Reservist and his service number should have been 3/9427.

3/9426 Frederick Stonier has a surviving discharge record - attested on the 29th September 1914 at Stoke on Trent for one years service, subsequently amended to Duration of War. Served at Devonport from the 29th October 1914 to the 6th May 1915, Seaham 7th May 1915 to the 20th September 1915, Forest Hall, 21st September 1915 to 4th October 1916, Wallsend 5th October 1916 to the 4th November 1918 when he was set out to France to serve with then 9th Battalion. At his discharge medical on the 1st April 1919 he was aged 40 years and 9 months. Those UK locations would all tie in with the 3rd Battalion, which is where I suspect George originally served.

Cheers,
Peter