Gareth Davies Posted 4 August Author Share Posted 4 August From the pension records I see that there was an Ada Fricker married to 15087 Pte Richard Charles Fricker. On the pension records in the 'relationship to man' entry she is shown as 'widow' but I can't seem to find him on the CWGC website. This may of course be a totally different family and thus not relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 August Admin Share Posted 4 August 13 minutes ago, Gareth Davies said: From the pension records I see that there was an Ada Fricker married to 15087 Pte Richard Charles Fricker. On the pension records in the 'relationship to man' entry she is shown as 'widow' but I can't seem to find him on the CWGC website. This may of course be a totally different family and thus not relevant. This is his silver war badge record (so he may have died beyond 1921?) Image courtesy Ancestry Haven't found them in 1911 census yet. I think this may be one of those maroon coloured fishes (but we thought that about Etna!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 4 August Share Posted 4 August Richard Charles Fricker was still living with his parents in the 1911 Census, he is described as being single. He married an Ada Earl on the 3 October 1916, Greenwich. Ada was baptised on the 2 June 1891 at St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, parents shown as Moses and Lucy Earl. The entry shows that Ada was born on the 25 April 1891. As David suggested 'this may be one of those maroon coloured fishes' . His death is recorded in Qtr 1 of 1920, Volume 1d, Page 1202. A family tree on Ancestry shows that he was buried on the 29 January 1920, Greenwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 5 August Author Share Posted 5 August Again with help from Sue Chifney, this article suggests that Lionel Somerset was Avis/Lady Somerset/Rodgers etc's foster brother. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87108010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 5 August Author Share Posted 5 August Prompted by something Sue said to me in an email, I did a search of the CWGC database for all the Lionels who died in 1918. There are 31 listed but of course there will have been more who don't have their full name recorded, just the initial L, but that would be way too big a search for now. None of the 31 leap out as being our Lionel although there are 4 with no family details but the surnames Collinson, Denham, Burt, and North don't ring any bells. I did however find an MIC for a Lionel Read who served as 30664 Pte Read in the 23rd Londons and then as 92661 Read in the Tank Corps who it seems survived the war but I think that's yet another red herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August I have checked my CWGC Alias spreadsheet for Lionel and there are only 2. Neither fit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August Sue's article is very similar to that from the People I have referenced before. To be honest I wouldn't believe the lady in the article if she told me the world was round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 5 August Author Share Posted 5 August I have written to the Theatre Royal to see if they have an archive or a historian who can shed any light on L Calhaem 1918 on their war memorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August Another "issue" with the letters from the will - The officer being a POW in Hindenburg - according to Wikipedia (I know, I know...) there was no POW camp at Hindenburg German prisoner-of-war camps in World War I - Wikipedia Heidelberg, yes but not the place named in the letter. Another falsehood to add to the ever growing list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 5 August Author Share Posted 5 August Did we know about the SWB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 5 August Share Posted 5 August Just had a quick look at the SWB database on Ancestry -- searched on Calhaen; then just both service numbers from MIC; then just on Stanislaus and came up empty handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 5 August Author Share Posted 5 August Thank you for looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 5 August Share Posted 5 August Meant to add that I also searched on surname and given name with 'sounds like' criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August 32 minutes ago, Gareth Davies said: Did we know about the SWB? No relevant record for a Calhaen, Calham, Stanislaus or Lionel that I can see on Ancestry's SWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August I think it has been previously mentioned that a Douglas Calhaem (no connection) was awarded the SWB (Image courtesy Ancestry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 5 August Admin Share Posted 5 August Just to set the record straight I had previously said Lionel Cholmondeley was a sole legatee of Stanislaus Calhaen on soldier's effects - that was an error (should have gone to the opticians) it states Roma twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 6 August Author Share Posted 6 August I am not sure if this helps or just muddies the waters further as Elizabeth is adamant that Ida and Ada are two different people. https://www.justanswer.com/genealogy/esh0b-information-lady-ida-irene-beaufort-somerset.html Some questions/observations: Did Maurice have the SWB? I see that Boy Cecil enlisted for 90 days emergency service in 1921 - his service records are on Ancestry but I don't think they add anything to the story. Who are Eric and Roy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 6 August Admin Share Posted 6 August I think to go down this route much further will not help answer the fundamental question as to who died as Stanislaus Calhaen intriguing though the family are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 6 August Admin Share Posted 6 August A Maurice Rodgers was awarded the SWB due to sickness (presume malaria) having served from 1915 - 1919. His service record survives in part, he was single and from Sheffield. So I cannot see a connection. (Images courtesy Ancestry and FMP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 6 August Share Posted 6 August 3 minutes ago, DavidOwen said: SWB due to sickness (presume malaria) Pension Card (Western Front Association) states 'Malaria' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 6 August Admin Share Posted 6 August Boy Cecil Rodgers' address in 1921 was Bedford. (Courtesy FMP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 6 August Share Posted 6 August 14 minutes ago, DavidOwen said: Boy Cecil Rodgers' address in 1921 was Bedford. (Courtesy FMP) The image posted shows an address of 56 Russell Street, Bedford - strange, the 1921 Census records a family of 10 with a surname of IZZARD - no mention of B C Rogers BC's record on FMP shows (on Duty Certificate) his home address of 34 Cardington Road, Bedford -- a check on the 1921 Census shows that a family called BELL lived at that address. Listed with the family is Cecil RODGERS, a Boarder, born 1901, born London, occupation SAPPER, R.E.D.F., place of work DRILL HALL, BEDFORD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 15 August Author Share Posted 15 August I have made contact with the Theatre Royal Drury Lane and their historian/archivist is going to be in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 15 August Admin Share Posted 15 August That is great news Gareth, fingers crossed it may be the piece of information which sorts the problem out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 15 August Admin Share Posted 15 August Just to add to the fun and mayhem I notice the Tank Corps Book of Honour lists him as Caldhaem S from Strand WC. The Tank Corps Book of Honour [1919, British Army] : Major R F G Maurice : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive The good news: no trace of any soldier (or indeed anyone) on FMP under that spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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