Admin DavidOwen Posted 29 July Admin Share Posted 29 July I have ordered the will and will post it when it arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 29 July Share Posted 29 July 20 minutes ago, DavidOwen said: I have ordered the will and will post it when it arrives. You really have got your teeth into this challenging case. Looking forward to what it might reveal, though of course always somewhat a lottery as to the level of content. [now where is that crossed-fingers emoji?] M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 29 July Admin Share Posted 29 July 2 hours ago, Matlock1418 said: You really have got your teeth into this challenging case. Looking forward to what it might reveal, though of course always somewhat a lottery as to the level of content. [now where is that crossed-fingers emoji?] M I am just too curious and especially why one brother would be favoured over all the other siblings / mother (and it wasn't too expensive either!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schneekle Posted 29 July Share Posted 29 July I'm not going to lie, I'm so totally invested......good work people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 30 July Admin Share Posted 30 July Whilst waiting for the will I wondered why he did not mention his mother. It seems likely she died in 1911 (courtesy FMP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 30 July Author Share Posted 30 July With thanks to Sue Chifney I can offer the following additions to the story: This mentions the infant Stanislaus senior and his younger brother Frank: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1scwpxv47Tnkd6C9w7xtRl8/famous-child-actor-plays-at-ledbury Still with Stanislaus senior from this: https://jhrusk.github.io/cr/CRAIKM.html "Lamentable to relate, the closing years of Mr Calhaem's life were clouded with misfortunes which were never of his own creation. At a period when even eminent actors were but indifferently paid, by dint of strict economy and rigid self-denial he had: saved a couple of thousand pounds, a few hundreds of which he lent the manager of a certain West End theatre, who came to grief; while, through the indiscreet advice of a relative connected with the Stock Exchange, he (Calhaem) was induced to invest the remainder of his savings in certain disastrous speculations, with the result that he parted with his last piece of scrip for a few shillings. A virulent and long continued attack of neuritis ultimately drove him from the stage, and about two years ago, poor Jacky 'shuffled off this mortal coil' esteemed and beloved by all who knew and appreciated a blameless record and an honourable life. R.I.P. This link (which will take you to a PDF download) says about Stanislaus senior He was married and had a son, Lionel who was killed in World War I. Stanislaus died in 1901. The photos here I don't think help but may be of interest: https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O232284/guy-little-theatrical-photograph-photograph-walker-cb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjwmacro Posted 30 July Share Posted 30 July Fascinating and very confusing thread! @Gareth Davies - is this the one you were asking for genealogical input for on FTC fb group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 30 July Share Posted 30 July (edited) 1 hour ago, pjwmacro said: Fascinating and very confusing thread! Ah, agreed, but Gareth is going to now pull it all together and provide us all with a superb timeline and account! Hopefully we will get a preview of his book!! M Edited 30 July by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 31 July Author Share Posted 31 July Um, yes, something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 31 July Admin Share Posted 31 July On 28/07/2023 at 12:05, DavidOwen said: Interestingly I can find no records at all on FMP or Ancestry for a Lionel Chalmondeley, Chalmondely, Chalmondly or Chalmondley. That man certainly does not seem to have existed. I misread the surname it should have been Cholmondeley, so I have repeated my searches but again without result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 31 July Admin Share Posted 31 July I have just done a probate search for Stanislaus's death in 1956 and came up empty again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 31 July Author Share Posted 31 July Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 3 August Admin Share Posted 3 August Forgive the tardiness of this reply. I had misread an email and didn't realise the documents had become available instantly. That problem now rectified I am pleased to post the non-will of the man who died as Stanislaus Calhaen/m. Make of these what you will (pardon the pun). Images courtesy HM Govt. Edit: The second image might be the end of the first letter but they are reproduced as they appear in the downloaded file. Personally I think this may add weight to the theory that Lionel was in fact the serving soldier. I find it difficult to think Stanislaus would have excluded other family members. Also as he officially died in 1956 having lived out his life in company of one of those brothers (would the brother have gone along with an impersonation at this stage to the extent that he would bury Lionel as Stanislaus?). The clincher for me is Lionel appearing on the Drury Lane memorial (I wonder if they have a record of who nominated him for the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 3 August Admin Share Posted 3 August This also raises the question of the first legatee on the Soldiers effects record - namely Lionel Cholmondeley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 3 August Author Share Posted 3 August Thank you for this David. I will digest and revert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 3 August Admin Share Posted 3 August I am supposing the "Etna" purporting to be the wife of a Major Johan (John?) Gadon / Yadon / *adon? is the Etna referred to earlier in the thread. This also makes me suspect fishy goings on even here. On that basis I went looking for the witness signatories: W Ralph Cator could indeed be William Ralph Cator, a Catholic Priest, who was in the 1911 census an "inmate" at Brompton Oratory. (Inmate in this sense is perfectly innocent). (Courtesy FMP) and Herbert Ridley is genuine too (1911 census, FMP) So at least the witnesses were legitimate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 3 August Admin Share Posted 3 August I have been stumped by the surname Etna was purporting to be using. I cannot find a POW of the surname "*adon" nor any pertinent ww1 records for a Major or indeed any officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 3 August Admin Share Posted 3 August To add to my concerns re fraud the alleged maid, Helen Taylor, was indeed living at 45 Oxford Gardens in 1911 - as a Housekeeper for her parents. The address she gives on her statement of 180 Kensington Park Road, Kensington was a Boarding House in 1911 (courtesy FMP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 4 August Author Share Posted 4 August 17 hours ago, DavidOwen said: I have been stumped by the surname Etna was purporting to be using. I cannot find a POW of the surname "*adon" nor any pertinent ww1 records for a Major or indeed any officer. No, me neither. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 August Admin Share Posted 4 August Whilst not wanting to muddy the waters further I revisited the newspaper from which I had previously posted the photo of "Lady Mercia Somerset" and noticed the article was "continued from page 1". Seeking out page one it transpires there may be yet another alias for this mysterious woman - Ada Alice Fricker. The images below courtesy of FMP are of that page one article in the The People 23 February 1913. It doesn't help with the fundamental question of who died as Stanislaus Calhaen though. Does anyone else think it odd that the will reproduced above doesn't include a claim from the lady herself (presumably accepted by the authorities as the "maid" claims her mistress is very ill...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 4 August Author Share Posted 4 August Ada Alice Fricker was admitted to Banstead asylum in 1926. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 4 August Author Share Posted 4 August (edited) https://ww1poole.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/the-astounding-record-of-a-poole-girl/ Could Edna Gordon mentioned in this article be Etna Gadon? Edited 4 August by Gareth Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 August Admin Share Posted 4 August 8 minutes ago, Gareth Davies said: https://ww1poole.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/the-astounding-record-of-a-poole-girl/ Interesting find Gareth. No mention of Cholmondeley I notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 4 August Share Posted 4 August 10 minutes ago, Gareth Davies said: https://ww1poole.wordpress.com/2019/06/19/the-astounding-record-of-a-poole-girl/ Could Edna Gordon mentioned in this article be Etna Gadon? As David said 'Interesting' --- what a woman, so many lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 August Admin Share Posted 4 August 14 minutes ago, Gareth Davies said: Could Edna Gordon mentioned in this article be Etna Gadon? I would say it is a likely prospect. Thinking about the "family" I would tentatively suggest that they are merely a bunch of con artists drawn together by circumstance (Maurice and Ida apart) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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