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Trench map for Hill 60 April / May 1915 - tracking 1st Norfolks


JDB

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Hello all, 

I wonder if anyone can help me with a trench map or sketch of Hill 60 in April 1915 and going into May - I'm tracking the movements of the 1st Norfolks.

Thanks

JDB

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On 17/04/2023 at 22:22, JDB said:

Hello all, 

I wonder if anyone can help me with a trench map or sketch of Hill 60 in April 1915 and going into May - I'm tracking the movements of the 1st Norfolks.

Thanks

JDB

The position is shown on maps of Verbrandenmolen. There are a number of such maps in the WD of 5 Div HQ GS. I have cropped this one to zoom in on Hill 60.

Courtesy TNA WO 95/1512. 

Brian

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Thanks so much Brian. That's just perfect. I very much appreciate your help.

Best wishes, 

Jane

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Jane

I am sure that I have posted others including sketches. I will do a search on Hill 60.

Brian

EDIT: No maps but David Blanchard started this thread last year. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/300244-gas-attacks-1st-may-6th-may-1915-hill-60-role-of-ramc/#comment-3151118

 

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Thank you so much once again Brian. I was really interested to read David's thread. Ironically, my chap, Acting Corporal George Hipperson, 1 Norfolks was at Hill 60 right up until the gas attack but then I discovered that on the 5th May he was in the hands of the 15th Brigade Field Ambulance with a NYD infection. This came to light because of the Casualty Book kept by the Norfolks and now in their regimental museum. It records those out of the line for wounds or sickness etc. I certainly wouldn't have known George missed the gas attack without it. I have posted about it on here before as I thought it a really useful resource and rather rare as far as I can ascertain. I remember reading the 15th Field ambulance diaries then and seeing the gas gases starting to come in - horrible but fascinating by degrees.

Thanks as always, 

Jane

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18 minutes ago, JDB said:

This came to light because of the Casualty Book kept by the Norfolks and now in their regimental museum. It records those out of the line for wounds or sickness etc. I certainly wouldn't have known George missed the gas attack without it. I have posted about it on here before as I thought it a really useful resource and rather rare as far as I can ascertain.

They had a lottery grant to digitise it and put it on line and even appealed for volunteers to help with the transcription. But then the project seems to have died - even the website no longer exists. I'm not even sure that the image shown on the regimental museum website of a sample page is correct https://royalnorfolkregiment.co.uk/what-we-have/

If it can be seen online I'd love to know :)

Cheers,
Peter

 

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5 minutes ago, PRC said:

They had a lottery grant to digitise it and put it on line and even appealed for volunteers to help with the transcription. But then the project seems to have died - even the website no longer exists. I'm not even sure that the image shown on the regimental museum website of a sample page is correct https://royalnorfolkregiment.co.uk/what-we-have/

If it can be seen online I'd love to know :)

Cheers,
Peter

 

I clicked on your link and it worked. What a truly fabulous website . I was astounded. 

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5 hours ago, FionaBam said:

I clicked on your link and it worked. What a truly fabulous website . I was astounded. 

There is some great stuff on the museum website and they have contributed some interesting materials to the Ogilby Muster so kudos to them. https://www.theogilbymuster.com/royal_norfolk_regiment

Unfortunately the stand alone website intended to showcase progress on the transcription of the Casualty Book and eventually serve as it's home on the net is now completely defunct. http://thecasualtybook.co.uk/the-project/

Cheers,
Peter

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8 minutes ago, PRC said:

There is some great stuff on the museum website and they have contributed some interesting materials to the Ogilby Muster so kudos to them. https://www.theogilbymuster.com/royal_norfolk_regiment

Unfortunately the stand alone website intended to showcase progress on the transcription of the Casualty Book and eventually serve as it's home on the net is now completely defunct. http://thecasualtybook.co.uk/the-project/

Cheers,
Peter

Thank you Peter that's a website to note .

Shame about the Casualty Book project.  It must be so hard to get funding from official related organisations like the Ministry of Defence but there should be public money ring fenced from the Defence Budget for honouring past servicemen in this way . If their descendants and researchers cannot locate such records then how do you honour and remember them ?

But you know all that Peter as does anyone else on GWF so this is not news .....

 

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Yes, agree with all your comments. I hadn't realized it was no longer going to be digitized. A great pity. Hopefully the archivist at the museum can still do looks ups from the original volume though, as she did for me and provided copies.

Best wishes, Jane

 

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52 minutes ago, JDB said:

Yes, agree with all your comments. I hadn't realized it was no longer going to be digitized. A great pity. Hopefully the archivist at the museum can still do looks ups from the original volume though, as she did for me and provided copies.

Best wishes, Jane

 

Thank you Jane, and hope so too . Such treasures for family and researchers , priceless really .

Best wishes 

Fiona 

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