Keith Williams Posted 29 March , 2023 Share Posted 29 March , 2023 Old school friend of mine now resident in Canada has learnt for the first time today, that his Great grandfather served in 4th btn Coldstream Guards! He is George T Barrett 14236, died 23.3.16 buried at Brandhoek Cemetery. Wondering if anyone can help re the offensive his unit was engaged in? Andy, the chum, said in his reply to my finding where Geirge was buried was, I never knew we had war heroes in the family. Many thanks Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 29 March , 2023 Share Posted 29 March , 2023 maybe this one? Free download once registered 4 Pioneer Battalion (Coldstream Guards). With sketch of unexploded aeroplane bomb, 25... | The National Archives Reference: WO 95/1206/2 Description: 4 Pioneer Battalion (Coldstream Guards). With sketch of unexploded aeroplane bomb, 25 Jan 1916 Date: 1915 July - 1919 Mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 My notes tell me that his 1914/15 star has been for sale in the past . Also says it’s been plated or similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 Courtesy of NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Williams Posted 30 March , 2023 Author Share Posted 30 March , 2023 Thanks Coldstreamer. Are you able to tell which battle was he killed in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 30 March , 2023 Admin Share Posted 30 March , 2023 Looking at the document posted above, I’d say not a battle but routine trench warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinesheadvillage Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 Hi Keith From a report in the Manchester Evening Chronicle, 6th April 1916, courtesy of FMP newspapers. Always nice to put a face to a name. I suspect the brother mentioned in the report is William Barrett, 10289, 18th Hussars, your friends Great Great Uncle. Father George claimed a pension, although soldiers effects were given to widow Mary. Mary was the widow of George, so a little confusing. Hope this is of some interest Kind Regards Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Williams Posted 30 March , 2023 Author Share Posted 30 March , 2023 1 hour ago, Swinesheadvillage said: Hi Keith From a report in the Manchester Evening Chronicle, 6th April 1916, courtesy of FMP newspapers. Always nice to put a face to a name. I suspect the brother mentioned in the report is William Barrett, 10289, 18th Hussars, your friends Great Great Uncle. Father George claimed a pension, although soldiers effects were given to widow Mary. Mary was the widow of George, so a little confusing. Hope this is of some interest Kind Regards Derek Thanks Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 Hi Keith, If your friend would like one, it looks like British War Graves would be able to send him a decent quality digital image of his Great grandfathers headstone on a free of charge basis - link For a small fee he could also get a low resolution B&W scan copy of what was accepted as being his will. It might only consist of a very few words though - the search page is here. His service record probably survives, and would have likely been held in the regimental archives. However, I believe that a couple of years ago, the files were transferred to the Army Personnel Centre, which in turn are somewhere in the process of transferring files to the National Archives. Findmypast do have a couple of records for George (possibly ledger entries??), which might also be of interest - link. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 The Coldstream archives now with MOD yielded a 99.9% success rate of being found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 30 March , 2023 Share Posted 30 March , 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Keith Williams said: Thanks Coldstreamer. Are you able to tell which battle was he killed in? The 4th was a pioneer battalion so didn’t really partake in battles from a fighting the enemy perspective so to speak like the other 3 for example the Somme saw hundreds killed 15 sept 16 in other battalions - I think the 4th had five ! Edited 30 March , 2023 by Coldstreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Williams Posted 30 March , 2023 Author Share Posted 30 March , 2023 6 hours ago, clk said: Hi Keith, If your friend would like one, it looks like British War Graves would be able to send him a decent quality digital image of his Great grandfathers headstone on a free of charge basis - link For a small fee he could also get a low resolution B&W scan copy of what was accepted as being his will. It might only consist of a very few words though - the search page is here. His service record probably survives, and would have likely been held in the regimental archives. However, I believe that a couple of years ago, the files were transferred to the Army Personnel Centre, which in turn are somewhere in the process of transferring files to the National Archives. Findmypast do have a couple of records for George (possibly ledger entries??), which might also be of interest - link. Regards Chris Thanks Chris 2 hours ago, Coldstreamer said: The 4th was a pioneer battalion so didn’t really partake in battles from a fighting the enemy perspective so to speak like the other 3 for example the Somme saw hundreds killed 15 sept 16 in other battalions - I think the 4th had five ! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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