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CROONAERT Posted 19 July , 2003 Author Share Posted 19 July , 2003 Andrew, Nothing really mentioned for the 2nd Battalion between 20th April1916 and July 1st 1916. The below is just about all that is mentioned (relief 20th April)... Sorry I can't be any more conclusive, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 19 July , 2003 Author Share Posted 19 July , 2003 Sir Reginald Blomfield was one of the IWGC architects.............some relation perhaps? Thanks for that, Andy. I thought the name was familiar. However, (I haven't done any research on 2/Lt. Blomfield), the initial also strikes me as if I should know him. As I said, I don't know what the "V" stands for, but the name "Victor Blomfield" rings a lot of bells. Any ideas? Dave (still puzzled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Hesketh Posted 19 July , 2003 Share Posted 19 July , 2003 Dave, A response and a scan within a few minutes of asking the question! It would appear that 'my' man was one of those unfortunates on the receiving end of a tragedy whilst in a so-called quiet period. Thanks ever so much for looking this up. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 20 July , 2003 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2003 Andrew. I've just had a "re-read". It wasn't such a quiet period after all... (the section in the history is entitled "raids")... 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Northern Soul Posted 20 July , 2003 Share Posted 20 July , 2003 You came up trumps again, Dave! Many thanks. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_Fielding Posted 20 July , 2003 Share Posted 20 July , 2003 Dave - Many many thanks for this look up! Sorry for the tardy thanks, but I've been on holiday and am just working my way through unread messages - 9 pages!! Sheesh!! Thanks again Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike10764 Posted 21 September , 2003 Share Posted 21 September , 2003 Dave-could you find the Lonsdale Battalion unit history for 1st July 1916-my great grandfather Pte John Farrer was a Lonsdale who was killed that morning. I would like to compare with the info I have in my article in his memory on Hellfire Corner as it was not researched from the unit history directly. I have only just joined this forum,so apologies for the late request. I am very interested in all aspects of the Lonsdales history and always like to add to my sources. Regards Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 22 September , 2003 Author Share Posted 22 September , 2003 Spike. These are the pages relevant to the Lonsdales on 1st July... Dave. (Page 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spike10764 Posted 23 September , 2003 Share Posted 23 September , 2003 Dave Thanks very much-the info is much appreciated. Not wanting to push it-but have you anything on the trench raid of June (5th ,I think) 1916 by Lt Barnes and a squad of Lonsdales on the area known as the Granatloch. Thanks Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 23 September , 2003 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2003 Spike. Your wish is my command... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spike10764 Posted 24 September , 2003 Share Posted 24 September , 2003 Thanks once again Dave, I've filed your info with my other stuff on the Lonsdales. Lieutenant Barnes according to one of my sources -was killed returning to no- mans land to retrieve a revolver he had lost in the raid. A terrible waste, don't you think? Keep up the good work. Regards Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike10764 Posted 6 October , 2003 Share Posted 6 October , 2003 Dave, Do you have the battalion history for the 11th Border Regiment for July 9th 1916? I've just read Blindfold and Alone-about the capital courts martials of the war and other disciplinary matters and in there was a passage about the Lonsdales.After suffering badly on July 1st-some survivors apparently refused to go on a trench raid(30 out of 90 reported sick),and their medical officer agreed they were unfit,due to their grevious losses only 9 days previous. The net result was the Medical officer was discharged,and the men were sent on a raid-but they were reported to have" been reluctant to fully participate" by the officers(most of whom were new to the Battalion,due to losses incurred). I am just curious as to if the Battalion History has mention of this-as a book I have based on the Battalion history does not- The Lonsdale Battalion 1914-1918 by Colin Bardgett. Regards Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 6 October , 2003 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2003 Sorry Spike. I can't help you there. There's no specific mention of this date in the history. The page that is nearest, you already have ("page 2" of my posting on Sept.22nd) where it mentions the Lonsdales being relieved on the night of 3/4th July and playing no further part. You might be best off seeing if the Bn war diary mentions it? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike10764 Posted 7 October , 2003 Share Posted 7 October , 2003 Thanks Dave, I have been able to find no other mention of such an incident anywhere.In fact most accounts suggest the Battalion was resting during the period. I kinda suspect the book in question was badly researched in this matter,though it does "namedrop" a 2nd Lieutenant Ross who was an officer at the time. Still,things can be covered by the mists of time-and some never let that get in the way of a good story. regards Spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 7 October , 2003 Author Share Posted 7 October , 2003 I agree with you there, Spike. To be honest, you can find innacuracies in most books written about the war, with different people seeing the same events differently, etc., and using different sources. Who knows - "Blindfold and Alone" might be correct, and the Regimental History might be wrong!!!! (Doubtful, but possible ) Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 19 October , 2003 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2003 John (from the WFA forum), this is for you (2/borders at Festubert)... Dave. (page 1 of 3)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andrew P Posted 31 January , 2004 Share Posted 31 January , 2004 Hi Dave Could you check your information on the Border Reg on the off chance this individual is mentioned? EJ McCarthy was an Imperial Army Reservist and was living in Fremantle, Western Australia when was was declared. The only piece of paper that I have on him has him joining up in the 5th Military District(Western Australia) for service in the Border Regiment. He joined on the 10/08/14 and his unit was the Border Regiment. His service number was 8335 and his rank on enlistment L/Cpl. His next of kin was his wife of Onslow Rd South Fremantle WA. I've checked CWGC and can find no trace of him so have assumed that he survived the war. Thanks Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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