PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 11 hours ago, mrfrank said: Possibly #5 a certain resemblance and made difficult to match as he’s looking to the side? So you think this combo? (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). I though 5's features were a little too bullish, chin too rounded, forehead too steep , and natural parting in the hair, (yes i know individuals can try other styles), all counted against it. To balance that however it could simply be the way the head is being held in all three images - the left and right image are clearly studio shots and so he would have been asked to hold himself in certain ways in keeping with the standard poses of the age. There are some pictures of the Australian RGA man on the internet but they are from the late thirties when he was a politician or WW2 when he was back in uniform. The elapsed time makes it difficult to use them for comparison purposes Wikipedia has this picture of him from the thirties, (copyright expired). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Fairweather_Harrison#/media/File:Eric_Fairweather_Harrison.jpg I did wonder if he might be 5 or 46, with perhaps the sash on 5 being an indicator of his Australian origins - 46 seems more in keeping with the other Royal Artillery men present. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) 13 hours ago, PRC said: In which case I wonder if @FROGSMILE can assist or point us in the right direction to get an identification of the Indian Army units officers 8 and 31 come from? Cheers, Peter Number 8 is 5th Bombay Cavalry, Peter. The pouch belt silver whistle is a special feature. Edited 27 January by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) On 26/01/2023 at 22:52, PRC said: In which case I wonder if @FROGSMILE can assist or point us in the right direction to get an identification of the Indian Army units officers 8 and 31 come from? Cheers, Peter Number 31 appears to be the 35th Scinde Horse, Peter. You can just see a part of the elaborate cuff knot favoured by the regiment protruding from his gauntlet, plus the thin piping to the front of his kurta, and a more subtly patterned than usual ‘Kashmir’ lunghi (kamarband). The wider yellow bands in his pagri shows dark with the orthochromatic film. However, the collar is darker in the version in the photo. Uniform did change in various ways as the regiments were reorganised several times. The most recent of these upheavals had been in 1903 (and another to come in 1937). Nevertheless, of the two British-Indian officers I am less sure of this one due to the collar difference. @Steven Broomfieldmight be able to comment, as I know that we share this interest. It’s taken me all morning to track this one down, but fun, fun, fun. All thanks to Almark Publications “Indian Cavalry Regiments 1880-1914” by A H Bowling (sadly no longer in print). Edited 1 February by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January 3 hours ago, PRC said: So you think this combo? (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). I though 5's features were a little too bullish, chin too rounded, forehead too steep , and natural parting in the hair, (yes i know individuals can try other styles), all counted against it. To balance that however it could simply be the way the head is being held in all three images - the left and right image are clearly studio shots and so he would have been asked to hold himself in certain ways in keeping with the standard poses of the age. There are some pictures of the Australian RGA man on the internet but they are from the late thirties when he was a politician or WW2 when he was back in uniform. The elapsed time makes it difficult to use them for comparison purposes Wikipedia has this picture of him from the thirties, (copyright expired). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Fairweather_Harrison#/media/File:Eric_Fairweather_Harrison.jpg I did wonder if he might be 5 or 46, with perhaps the sash on 5 being an indicator of his Australian origins - 46 seems more in keeping with the other Royal Artillery men present. Cheers, Peter I’m thinking that the Australian EF Harrison may well possibly be #46. He doesn’t have any entry/medals under ‘war services’ in the Annual Army Lists and #5 is clearly wearing a medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January 2 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Number 31 appears to be the 35th Scinde Horse, Peter. You can just see a part of the elaborate cuff knot favoured by the regiment protruding from his gauntlet, plus the thin piping to the front of his kurta, and a more subtly patterned than usual lunghi (kamarband). The wider yellow bands in his pagri shows dark with the orthochromatic film. However, the collar is darker in the version in the photo. Uniform did change in various ways as the regiments were reorganised several times. The most recent of these upheavals had been in 1903. It’s taken me all morning to track this one down, but fun, fun, fun. All thanks to Almark Publications “Indian Cavalry Regiments 1880-1914” by A H Bowling (sadly no longer in print). If #31 is indeed wearing the uniform of the 35th Scinde Horse, then there is only one candidate from the list: Captain Edward Douglas Giles Unfortunately, can’t find an image to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 3 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: It’s taken me all morning to track this one down, but fun, fun, fun. All thanks to Almark Publications “Indian Cavalry Regiments 1880-1914” by A H Bowling (sadly no longer in print). I hope it was enjoyable and has added a few more nuggets to your vast treasure trove of information. Thank-you for taking the time to assist with thhis one - every name accounted for makes it easier to pin down the rest Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 16 minutes ago, PRC said: I hope it was enjoyable and has added a few more nuggets to your vast treasure trove of information. Thank-you for taking the time to assist with thhis one - every name accounted for makes it easier to pin down the rest Cheers, Peter Always glad to help Peter. The first unit ID is a positive, the second less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) On 24/01/2023 at 18:52, mrfrank said: George McKenzie Franks, Royal Artillery The National Portrait Gallery has four pictures stated to have been taken at a session in 1918 that feature Major-General George McKenzie Franks, (1868-1958). I'm assuming the prints have all been reversed, al they all show him with his medal ribbons over his right breast. https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw221052/Sir-George-McKenzie-Franks?LinkID=mp132736&role=sit&rNo=2 Possibly a match for number 52? Major edit. I then found a undated picture of George de Symons Barrow on the 20th Hussars website. https://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/20thhussarsgeorgebarrow.htm Revised comparison has George Barrow on the left, officer 52 in the middle and George Franks on the right. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter Edited 27 January by PRC Delete original comparison and update with new image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 52 minutes ago, PRC said: The National Portrait Gallery has four pictures stated to have been taken at a session in 1918 that feature Major-General George McKenzie Franks, (1868-1958). I'm assuming the prints have all been reversed, al they all show him with his medal ribbons over his right breast. https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw221052/Sir-George-McKenzie-Franks?LinkID=mp132736&role=sit&rNo=2 Possibly a match for number 52? (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter I think these two are different, Peter. Different eye sockets and the officer in a frock coat has a much more square jawline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 1 minute ago, FROGSMILE said: I think these two are different, Peter. Different eye sockets and the officer in a frock coat has a much more square jawline. Sorry - I've been trying to update my post with an additional candidate to be considered, but haven't been able to get back in to the forum. Suspect I may have found a better match - take another look please at the updated comparison. Apologies, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January 1 minute ago, PRC said: Sorry - I've been trying to update my post with an additional candidate to be considered, but haven't been able to get back in to the forum. Suspect I may have found a better match - take another look please at the updated comparison. Apologies, Peter Yes that’s better. The new face you posted in scarlet tunic matches the officer in frock coat I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January From images on-line (and distinctive pencil moustache), I believe #9 is Francis Duncan Irvine (Royal Engineers), 2nd Queen’s Own Sappers & Miners. He is wearing the same wave-patterned cross-belt/sash as #5 and there are only two Royal Engineer students at Quetta at the time. The other was Arthur Richard Careless Sanders and there is an image on the IWM ‘Lives of the First World War’ site that I think bears a strong resemblance to #5. Both men were killed in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) 25 minutes ago, mrfrank said: The other was Arthur Richard Careless Sanders and there is an image on the IWM ‘Lives of the First World War’ site that I think bears a strong resemblance to #5. I did see that but wasn't sure how true to life it was - I think a couple of the other names have a portrait painting but I did use them for the same reason. However others' may see things differently. One slight concern - I know LOTFWW has him winning the DSO and Legion, but he still seems to have picked up rather a lot of medal ribbons between 1911 and September 1918 when he was killed in action. (or maybe there is some artistic licence at play to include medals he would subsequently become entitled to but would have never worn while alive) - if it is the same man. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). That does then leave us with images of Walter Kirke for which there would currently be no likely outstanding match in the Staff College picture. Cheers, Peter Edited 27 January by PRC Typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January 38 minutes ago, PRC said: I did see that but wasn't sure how true to life it was - I think a couple of the other names have a portrait painting but I did use them for the same reason. However others' may see things differently. One slight concern - I know LOTFWW has him winning the DSO and Legion, but he still seems to have picked up rather a lot of medal ribbons between 1911 and September 1918 when he was killed in action. (or maybe there is some artistic licence at play to include medals he would subsequently become entitled to but would have never worn while alive) - if it is the same man. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). That does then leave us with images of Walter Kirke for which there would currently be no likely outstanding match in the Staff College picture. Cheers, Peter In answer to the point about medal entitlements with regard to ARC Sanders, the annual army lists confirm that in 1911 he had the ‘NW Frontier of India, 1908 medal with clasp’ and #5 is wearing one medal with clasp. As always, difficult to confirm the exact medal ribbon in an old photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January 1 hour ago, PRC said: I did see that but wasn't sure how true to life it was - I think a couple of the other names have a portrait painting but I did use them for the same reason. However others' may see things differently. One slight concern - I know LOTFWW has him winning the DSO and Legion, but he still seems to have picked up rather a lot of medal ribbons between 1911 and September 1918 when he was killed in action. (or maybe there is some artistic licence at play to include medals he would subsequently become entitled to but would have never worn while alive) - if it is the same man. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). That does then leave us with images of Walter Kirke for which there would currently be no likely outstanding match in the Staff College picture. Cheers, Peter I’ve gone back to the photo for a match to your images for Walter Kirke. #44 seems likeliest to me. Centre hair parting and a decent match I think to your earlier image. Entitled to NWFrontier of India, Waziristan 1901-2 with clasp and I believe that’s what #44 is wearing in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) So is this a fair summary of where we've got to so far, (it will save others have to jump back and forth through the thread). 1: Thomas Anselan Pollok-Morris, Highland Light Infantry5: Arthur Richard Careless Sanders R.E.8: Uniform is that of the 5th Bombay Cavalry.9: Francis Duncan Irvine (Royal Engineers), 2nd Queen’s Own Sappers & Miners.11: Probably Henry Bingham Whistler Smith-Rewse, RFA19: Francis Hamilton Moore, 2nd Berkshire21: Richard Hope Waller, 38th Dogras28: Walter Lloyd Sinclair Meiklejohn, 106th Hazara Pioneers29: Henry Clare Duncan, 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles30: Francis John Joslin, 2nd Royal West Kent Regiment31: Probably Edward Douglas Giles, 35th Horse34: Gerald Farrell Boyd DSO, 2nd Leinster40: Harold Hereward Hughes-Hallett, 2nd North Staffs44: Possibly Walter Mervyn St George Kirke, 59th Company, RGA45: Cyril Norman MacMullen, 15th Ludhiana Sikhs46: Possibly Eric Fairweather Harrison, Royal Australian Garrison Artillery51: Matthew Percival Buckle , RWKR52: Probably George de Symons Barrow, 4th Cavalry53: Probably Col John Emerson Wharton Headlam DSO55: Douglas Haig Outstanding College Staff Henry Dowrish Drake, RM Artillery George McKenzie Franks, Royal Artillery (Pictures available but no obvious match) Alexander Montagu Spears Elsmie, 56th Punjab Rifles Theodore Fraser, RE Students James Farquhar, 19th Battery, RFA Francis William Loveday, 75th Company, RGA John Arthur Muirhead, 1st Duke of York's Own Lancers (Skinner's Horse) Harold Lewis, 37th Lancers (Baluch Horse) John Cecil Macrae, 19th Punjabis Laurence Balfour Cloete, 37th Dogras John Harvey de Wiederhold Carruthers, 1st Bn 39th Garwhal Rifles Arthur William Hamilton May Moens, 52nd Sikhs (F.F.) Arthur Charles Samuel Burdon Ellis, 121st Pioneers George Hutchison, 122nd Rajputana Infantry Edgar Claude Kensington, 130th Prince of Wales' Own Baluchis Basil Edwin Crockett, 17th Lancers Thomas George Jameson Torrie, 27th Light Cavalry Charles Richard Foster Seymour, 13th Rajputs William Campbell Little, 1st Bn 6th Gurkha Rifles Gilbert Robert Cassells, 17th Lancers Alleyn Charles Rothwell Greene, RGA Clarence Reginald MacDonald, Royal Warwickshire Regiment Francis Harvey Stapleton, Ox & Buck Light Infantry Henry Charles Swinburne Ward, 2nd Lancers Claud Hamilton Griffith Black, 34th Horse Charles Kirkpatrick, Corps of Guides James Whitehead, 1st Brahmans Frank Etheridge, 7th Rajputs Cuthbert Colpoys Cunningham, 12th Pioneers Frank Eustice George Talbot, 14th Sikhs James Charles McKenna, 16th Rajputs Herbert Claude McWatters, 22nd Punjabis John Cavendish Freeland, 35th Sikhs Walter Edward Wilson-Johnston, 36th Sikhs Henry St George Murray McRae, 45th Sikhs Guilford Edgar Charlton Underhill, 62nd Punjabis Charles McGregor Withers, 87th Punjabis Vire Gordon Menzies, 97th InfantryAdditional names added to the original list by @mrfrank on 27/1. Major Alexander Bertram Lindsay, 2nd Gurkha Rifles Capt Bertie Drew Fisher, 17th Lancers Cheers, Peter Edited 28 January by PRC 1)Typo 27/1 2) Additional names 28/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 January Share Posted 27 January (edited) Looks brilliant to me Peter. Almost like a roll call of Empire. I look at it all and think how much things have changed. Would it be helpful if I took a stab at identifying the regiments/corps of those not yet with a name? If so it would help me to be methodical if you created the whole numeric list with names, and with blanks. I can’t seem to copy the list without spaces between each row number. Edited 28 January by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 27 January Author Share Posted 27 January 8 minutes ago, PRC said: So is this a fair summary of where we've got to so far, (it will save others have to jump back and forth through the thread). 1: Thomas Anselan Pollok-Morris, Highland Light Infantry5: Arthur Richard Careless Sanders R.E.8: Uniform is that of the 5th Bombay Cavalry.9: Francis Duncan Irvine (Royal Engineers), 2nd Queen’s Own Sappers & Miners.11: Probably Henry Bingham Whistler Smith-Rewse, RFA19: Francis Hamilton Moore, 2nd Berkshire21: Richard Hope Waller, 38th Dogras28: Walter Lloyd Sinclair Meiklejohn, 106th Hazara Pioneers29: Henry Clare Duncan, 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles30: Francis John Joslin, 2nd Royal West Kent Regiment31: Probably Edward Douglas Giles, 35th Horse34: Gerald Farrell Boyd DSO, 2nd Leinster40: Harold Hereward Hughes-Hallett, 2nd North Staffs44: Possibly Walter Mervyn St George Kirke, 59th Company, RGA45: Cyril Norman MacMullen, 15th Ludhiana Sikhs46: Possibly Eric Fairweather Harrison, Royal Australian Garrison Artillery51: Matthew Percival Buckle , RWKR52: Probably George de Symons Barrow, 4th Cavalry53: Probably Col John Emerson Wharton Headlam DSO55: Douglas Haig Outstanding College Staff Henry Dowrish Drake, RM Artillery George McKenzie Franks, Royal Artillery (Pictures available but no obvious match) Alexander Montagu Spears Elsmie, 56th Punjab Rifles Theodore Fraser, RE Students James Farquhar, 19th Battery, RFA Francis William Loveday, 75th Company, RGA John Arthur Muirhead, 1st Duke of York's Own Lancers (Skinner's Horse) Harold Lewis, 37th Lancers (Baluch Horse) John Cecil Macrae, 19th Punjabis Laurence Balfour Cloete, 37th Dogras John Harvey de Wiederhold Carruthers, 1st Bn 39th Garwhal Rifles Arthur William Hamilton May Moens, 52nd Sikhs (F.F.) Arthur Charles Samuel Burdon Ellis, 121st Pioneers George Hutchison, 122nd Rajputana Infantry Edgar Claude Kensington, 130th Prince of Wales' Own Baluchis Basil Edwin Crockett, 17th Lancers Thomas George Jameson Torrie, 27th Light Cavalry Charles Richard Foster Seymour, 13th Rajputs William Campbell Little, 1st Bn 6th Gurkha Rifles Gilbert Robert Cassells, 17th Lancers Alleyn Charles Rothwell Greene, RGA Clarence Reginald MacDonald, Royal Warwickshire Regiment Francis Harvey Stapleton, Ox & Buck Light Infantry Henry Charles Swinburne Ward, 2nd Lancers Claud Hamilton Griffith Black, 34th Horse Charles Kirkpatrick, Corps of Guides James Whitehead, 1st Brahmans Frank Etheridge, 7th Rajputs Cuthbert Colpoys Cunningham, 12th Pioneers Frank Eustice George Talbot, 14th Sikhs James Charles McKenna, 16th Rajputs Herbert Claude McWatters, 22nd Punjabis John Cavendish Freeland, 35th Sikhs Walter Edward Wilson-Johnston, 36th Sikhs Henry St George Murray McRae, 45th Sikhs Guilford Edgar Charlton Underhill, 62nd Punjabis Charles McGregor Withers, 87th Punjabis Vire Gordon Menzies, 97th Infantry Cheers, Peter That’s where we’re at thus far Peter…..pretty good going I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfrank Posted 28 January Author Share Posted 28 January #42 appears to be sporting collar badges in the form of ‘crossed katars’ the traditional Rajput dagger. Not sure though if it was only the 13th Rajputs that wore this badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January On 26/01/2023 at 11:12, mrfrank said: William Campbell Little, 1st Bn 6th Gurkha Rifles The only pictures I could readily find of William Campbell Little appear to have been taken later in life - probably thirties or later, like the one sourced from here https://ornaverum.org/family/little/little-william-campbell-colonel.html So on that basis I only very, very tentatively put forward Officer 13 as a possible match. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Officer 13 was a well decorated soldier already - at least three medals although the individual standing in front of him blocks much of our view so there could have been more. And by the time the later picture of William was taken his medal ribbons are:- (Image rights remain with the current owner). So the question is does the medal entitlement for William Campbell Little at the time the Quetta Staff College picture was taken in 1911, even just in terms of quantity, match those on display by Officer 13? Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January On 26/01/2023 at 11:56, mrfrank said: Maj Alexander Bertram Lindsay, 2nd Gurkha Rifles (Sirmoor Rifles) There were three Gurkha officers believed to be present with Henry Clare Duncan, of the 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles, believed to be the owner of the picture and identified as Officer 29 in the picture. I've just added a tentative identification of the second, William Campbell Little, as Officer 13. William Little has much of his uniform obscured. Looking at the uniform of Henry Duncan, the only other anything like it is Officer 27. The Imperial War Museum has a picture of Alexander Bertram Lindsay in civvies - he retired pre-war on health grounds but returned to work in the War Office: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205384584 However the associated biography has him decorated for service on the N.W. Frontier of India 1897-98, (medal and two clasps), Tirah 1898, (clasp), and N.E. Frontier of India 1911-12, (medal and clasps, mention in despatches, brevet-colonel). So while Officer 27 may potentially be the only Gurkha Officer unaccounted for, and there is a certain resemblance to Alexander Lindsay, the absense of medals is a bit of a question mark. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 1 hour ago, PRC said: There were three Gurkha officers believed to be present with Henry Clare Duncan, of the 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles, believed to be the owner of the picture and identified as Officer 29 in the picture. I've just added a tentative identification of the second, William Campbell Little, as Officer 13. William Little has much of his uniform obscured. Looking at the uniform of Henry Duncan, the only other anything like it is Officer 27. The Imperial War Museum has a picture of Alexander Bertram Lindsay in civvies - he retired pre-war on health grounds but returned to work in the War Office: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205384584 However the associated biography has him decorated for service on the N.W. Frontier of India 1897-98, (medal and two clasps), Tirah 1898, (clasp), and N.E. Frontier of India 1911-12, (medal and clasps, mention in despatches, brevet-colonel). So while Officer 27 may potentially be the only Gurkha Officer unaccounted for, and there is a certain resemblance to Alexander Lindsay, the absense of medals is a bit of a question mark. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter Regardless of medals I’m convinced the two faces are of the same man, Peter. Another good match by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January (edited) On 26/01/2023 at 11:56, mrfrank said: Bertie Drew Fisher, 17th Lancers The Imperial War Museum has a picture of Lieutenant Colonel Bertie Drew Fisher, 17th Lancers, date of death unknown. Although their caption doesn't date the picture, in a picture of the reverse it says it was purchased February 1918. That date would severely restrict the Great War service medal ribbons that could be on display. https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205294699 My best guess is Officer 16 in the Quetta Staff College picture. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter Edited 28 January by PRC Add link to IWM webpage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 14 minutes ago, PRC said: The Imperial War Museum has a picture of Lieutenant Colonel Bertie Drew Fisher, 17th Lancers, date of death unknown. Although their caption doesn't date the picture, in a picture of the reverse it says it was purchased February 1918. That date would severely restrict the Great War service medal ribbons that could be on display. My best guess is Officer 16 in the Quetta Staff College picture. (No new IP was created in producing the above and all image rights remain with the current owners). Cheers, Peter I don’t think these show the same man, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 5 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: I don’t think these show the same man, Peter. Not a problem - I'm building up a little store of known images of the students and staff members that could be in the Quetta College picture but I'm really struggling to make a match. Nose, ear shape, chin and bottom eyelids seemed potentially matching enough, along with hair colouring and the single medal, to see what others thought. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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