NORFOLK TF badges - photos for volume three, Badges of the TF 1914-1918

[poona guard]

Does anyone have photos that show the badges worn by the 1st/4th. 1st/5th and 12th battalions or examples of the badges worn by the first two battalions?

[PRC]

I don't know if some of these images on the Picture Norfolk website are of any use - you'd need to request permission to use.

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720493

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720566

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=918442

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722068

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722089

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722237

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=1136636

Note the same site has a collection of pictures of over 1,000 servicemen from the county who made the ultimate sacrifice. I don't know if others may be of help to you like this 4th East Yorks man. https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722021

or 4th Lincolns https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=721669

Unfortunately many of the pictures are either headshots or head to toe - either way badges on display are usually at best cap badges, and I'm not aware of any distinction specific to the Territorial Force when it comes to those.

My own collection mainly comes from contemporary newspapers, so far too low resolution to pick out that sort of detail, and usually cropped to a headshot.

I've not seen him about recently but forum member @rob carman takes a keen interest in the TF Battalions of the Norfolk Regiment and may have something he can contribute.

Cheers,
Peter

[max7474]

As far as I am aware there was no TF variant of the Norfolk Regt cap badge.

[FROGSMILE]

17 hours ago, PRC said:

I don't know if some of these images on the Picture Norfolk website are of any use - you'd need to request permission to use.

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720493

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720566

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=918442

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722068

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722089

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722237

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=1136636

Note the same site has a collection of pictures of over 1,000 servicemen from the county who made the ultimate sacrifice. I don't know if others may be of help to you like this 4th East Yorks man. https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722021

or 4th Lincolns https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=721669

Unfortunately many of the pictures are either headshots or head to toe - either way badges on display are usually at best cap badges, and I'm not aware of any distinction specific to the Territorial Force when it comes to those.

My own collection mainly comes from contemporary newspapers, so far too low resolution to pick out that sort of detail, and usually cropped to a headshot.

I've not seen him about recently but forum member @rob carman takes a keen interest in the TF Battalions of the Norfolk Regiment and may have something he can contribute.

Cheers,
Peter

They’re great quality photos Peter, but unfortunately almost all taken at home in studio portraits, or at annual training camps, and mainly early in the war going by the Imperial Service tablets on view.  Photos in France 1916 onward seem to be rarer, but they’re the ones that more commonly show the cloth battle insignia sought.  Of course fellows home on leave in the second half of the war do more often show the cloth arm insignia worn, although not always, as men were quite often given clean/new uniforms after they’d been deloused and attended a bath/shower house.  The era of such badges unfortunately coincided with a much more thorough process for men departing on leave with a view to them not being seen in scruffy, frontline soiled uniform.  The penultimate link you posted of a 4th East Yorks man does seem to show the kind of arm badge being looked for.  As you say, perhaps Rob Carman might have something.

Edited 23 January , 2023 by FROGSMILE

[poona guard]

19 hours ago, PRC said:

I don't know if some of these images on the Picture Norfolk website are of any use - you'd need to request permission to use.

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720493

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=720566

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=918442

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722068

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722089

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722237

https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=1136636

Note the same site has a collection of pictures of over 1,000 servicemen from the county who made the ultimate sacrifice. I don't know if others may be of help to you like this 4th East Yorks man. https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=722021

or 4th Lincolns https://norfolk.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/ENQ/WPAC/BIBENQ?SETLVL=&BRN=721669

Unfortunately many of the pictures are either headshots or head to toe - either way badges on display are usually at best cap badges, and I'm not aware of any distinction specific to the Territorial Force when it comes to those.

My own collection mainly comes from contemporary newspapers, so far too low resolution to pick out that sort of detail, and usually cropped to a headshot.

I've not seen him about recently but forum member @rob carman takes a keen interest in the TF Battalions of the Norfolk Regiment and may have something he can contribute.

Cheers,
Peter

Thanks for these which interesting but unfortunately don't fit the bill.

[rob carman]

I’m away for a week but when I’m back home I will be in touch. I have some good   Images of 1/4 and 1/5, but less of 12 Bn.  Rob.

[poona guard]

Thanks, I look forward to hearing from you again.

[caladonia]

Hello Poona Guard

I've been searching for the original sites were I've saved photos over the years which you may be interested in -

A treasure trove of images – Norfolk in World War One- A couple of photos of 1/4th Batt men.

54th Division sign - Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum- 54th Div patches with photos.

https://www.researchingww1.co.uk/interpret-ww1-photographs- Norfolk Yeom. 12th Batt patch.

Perhaps you could cotact the site owners for permission to publish?

William