Help to identify RWF possible Formation patch

[Simon J Emmerson]

Hi Folks, Can anyone from the community help identify the insignia on the upper tunic arm of this Royal Welsh Fusilier please. 

I maybe seeing things but it looks like he has a cloth Triangular patch on his upper tunic arm. Many thanks. 

Regards Simon 

[FROGSMILE]

17 minutes ago, Simon J Emmerson said:

Hi Folks, Can anyone from the community help identify the insignia on the upper tunic arm of this Royal Welsh Fusilier please. 

I maybe seeing things but it looks like he has a cloth Triangular patch on his upper tunic arm. Many thanks. 

Regards Simon 

The 13th (red), 14th (dark blue), 15th - London Welsh (yellow) and 16th (green) Service Battalions of the RWF all wore a triangle on upper arms in the colours mentioned.  The 15th also featured a three tier title with a curved botttom which I can see in your photo, albeit that it appears twisted as if one securing loop is broken.

It’s a cracking photo Simon, thank you for posting it.  I’m sure that @poona guardwill be interested to see it too.

Edited 22 January by FROGSMILE

[Simon J Emmerson]

26 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

The 13th (red), 14th (dark blue), 15th - London Welsh (yellow) and 16th (green) Service Battalions of the RWF all wore a triangle on upper arms in the colours mentioned.  The 15th also featured a three tier title with a curved botttom which I can see in your photo, albeit that it appears twisted as if one securing loop is broken.

It’s a cracking photo Simon, thank you for posting it.  I’m sure that @poona guardwill be interested to see it too.

Once again many thanks for your help. Would it be too presumptuous to assume alot of the Royal Welsh Fusilier studio photo postcards with London photographic address in my collection could well be 15th or 18th Battalion.

[FROGSMILE]

6 minutes ago, Simon J Emmerson said:

Once again many thanks for your help. Would it be too presumptuous to assume alot of the Royal Welsh Fusilier studio photo postcards with London photographic address in my collection could well be 15th or 18th Battalion.

No not presumptuous as a big clue Simon, I think that a London postmark would be a strong indicator to the 15th and 18th battalions.  Most other RWF activity was in Wales and at Oswestry (Shropshire). 

Edited 22 January by FROGSMILE

[GWF1967]

Whilst the shoulder title is twisted into an odd shape, it appears to be a regular R.W.F example. 

[FROGSMILE]

2 hours ago, GWF1967 said:

Whilst the shoulder title is twisted into an odd shape, it appears to be a regular R.W.F example. 

I don’t think so, the far left part is the curved ‘LondonWelsh’ but twisted out of alignment. 

[Jerry B]

16 hours ago, GWF1967 said:

Whilst the shoulder title is twisted into an odd shape, it appears to be a regular R.W.F example. 

I thought the same, i cant see it as london welsh, but ...

[FROGSMILE]

22 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

I thought the same, i cant see it as london welsh, but ...

If you look you can see an almost v-shaped shadow caused by the curve of the bottom tier of the title.  All other RWF titles do not have a curved bottom tier, but just the straight and short 3-letters - RWF.

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

As we discussed last week (and may times previously), if  this photo was taken on orthochromatic film, then the patch is almost certainly not red. It probably isn't yellow or green either, but most likely blue. Note this Union Jack where the red cross is dark, and the blue parts very pale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthochromasia#/media/File:Northernparty.png

(I'm sorry, but I can't see the curved title either, only the letter F.

[FROGSMILE]

42 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said:

As we discussed last week (and may times previously), if  this photo was taken on orthochromatic film, then the patch is almost certainly not red. It probably isn't yellow or green either, but most likely blue. Note this Union Jack where the red cross is dark, and the blue parts very pale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthochromasia#/media/File:Northernparty.png

(I'm sorry, but I can't see the curved title either, only the letter F.

No problem Dai, we each see what we see.  I urge people to focus on the shadows, they are always key.  However, there is sufficient doubt cast now that I no longer feel as positive as I did.

Edited 23 January by FROGSMILE