poona guard Posted 13 November , 2022 Share Posted 13 November , 2022 Does anyone have photos of these battalions and/or know of the badges they wore on their pagris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 November , 2022 Share Posted 13 November , 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, poona guard said: Does anyone have photos of these battalions and/or know of the badges they wore on their pagris? @stiletto_33853 (Andy) is an RB aficionado and will also know some fellow enthusiasts that between them might be able to help. Also @MBrockway(Mark) has long had association. Also @tn.drummondhas a special interest in British troops in India during WW1. Edited 14 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 13 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2022 Thanks. How do I contact him? Do you know anything about the badges of 1/1 HAC? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 November , 2022 Share Posted 13 November , 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, poona guard said: Thanks. How do I contact him? Do you know anything about the badges of 1/1 HAC? Dave I’ve drawn their attention by using the @followed by their user names. No, I cannot help with 1/1 HAC, but they have quite a good handle on their history via the following links: 1.https://www.armymuseums.org.uk/listing/honourable-artillery-company/ 2.https://hac.org.uk Edited 14 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 14 November , 2022 Share Posted 14 November , 2022 My info for these RB TF units would be based on Kipling & King, the standard ref on badges, but not super detailed on matters pagri. Also in Scotland at the moment hundreds of miles from my copy! Andy may have some images of these TF bns taken in theatre that might show badges, but I suspect most of his material does not show the more formal orders of dress. My advice would be to post your request on the British Badge Forum. Much more likely to get a definitive answer there. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 14 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2022 Thanks. Will attempt to do so. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 16 November , 2022 Share Posted 16 November , 2022 (edited) Dave, Hope these help, 24th RB Andy Edited 16 November , 2022 by stiletto_33853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 November , 2022 Share Posted 16 November , 2022 23 minutes ago, stiletto_33853 said: Dace, Hope these help, 24th RB Andy Great photos Andy, the flashes look to me upper half dark green and lower half black, is that your take too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 16 November , 2022 Share Posted 16 November , 2022 Yes, that's my take on them as well Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 November , 2022 Share Posted 16 November , 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, stiletto_33853 said: Yes, that's my take on them as well Andy Thanks Andy, I can see they’re the same height as the whole of the pagri. It’s interesting too that some are equipped with Wolseley helmets and others have the later Solar Topees. Edited 16 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 16 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2022 Hi Andy, Stunning. Can I have full copies for use in the book please? Who do I credit for them? Best, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 16 November , 2022 Share Posted 16 November , 2022 (edited) Dave, send me a personal message with your e-mail address and I will forward them to you. I think I have a few more on my hard drives, will check for you. No credit needed, just say from a RB enthusiast. Noted the Wolseley helmets and Solar Topees. Andy Edited 16 November , 2022 by stiletto_33853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 17 November , 2022 Share Posted 17 November , 2022 Good result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 18 November , 2022 Share Posted 18 November , 2022 In my research I have found lots of photos of regular army using cloth patches after the Army order circa 1903 said metal badges were not to be worn. However the TF Bns sent to India in WW1 ignored this rule in the portrait photos they had taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 November , 2022 Share Posted 18 November , 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, max7474 said: In my research I have found lots of photos of regular army using cloth patches after the Army order circa 1903 said metal badges were not to be worn. However the TF Bns sent to India in WW1 ignored this rule in the portrait photos they had taken. Which patches do you mean Max, not shoulder titles? Edited 18 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 18 November , 2022 Share Posted 18 November , 2022 (edited) Dave, Finally found the other pictures of the RB TF battalions I mentioned. Will scan that article from the 1928 RB Chronicles tomorrow. Notice portrait photo. TR but no metal badges visible Andy Edited 18 November , 2022 by stiletto_33853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 18 November , 2022 Share Posted 18 November , 2022 2 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Which patches do you mean Max, not shoulder titles? I mean pagri patches of various shapes and colours on the side of the pith helmet. There were lots of variants even between battalions but I have seen several photos where the TF in India are wearing cap badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 November , 2022 Share Posted 18 November , 2022 59 minutes ago, max7474 said: I mean pagri patches of various shapes and colours on the side of the pith helmet. There were lots of variants even between battalions but I have seen several photos where the TF in India are wearing cap badges. Thank you Max, yes I understand now. Pagri flashes are an interesting area and not well covered in historical publications on uniform. There is a good book by a Canadian author on sun helmets, which covers pagris and insignia but wasn’t able to incorporate the huge range of varied cloth and metal insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 18 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2022 Andy, Please can I use the photos in the book? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 22 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2022 Hi Andy, Can I have full size copies of these photos please? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 22 November , 2022 Share Posted 22 November , 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, poona guard said: Hi Andy, Can I have full size copies of these photos please? Dave Perhaps ‘flagging’ @stiletto_33853will help draw his attention. Edited 22 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 22 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2022 Another question. Do you know which battalion Goddsall was in? He's the solo photo. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 22 November , 2022 Share Posted 22 November , 2022 24th Dave, 206630 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 22 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2022 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 29 November , 2022 Share Posted 29 November , 2022 On 13/11/2022 at 17:38, poona guard said: Thanks. How do I contact him? Do you know anything about the badges of 1/1 HAC? Dave I have some cloth HAC titles. Red HAC woven on Navy blue cloth and ‘A’ HAC same colours as HAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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