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How long between MM action and LG entry?


Skipman

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An MGC soldier am researching was awarded the Military Medal for 'bravery in the field' The award is listed in the London Gazette on the 18th of July 1917. How long did it normally take from gaining the award to its appearance in the London Gazette, and would that be a good indication of when the event for which he won the award took place?

Mike

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I did look but didn't find the right place but now have it. From LLT "Check back over the six months before the date of the listing in the London Gazette; longer if the listing was made in 1919."

 

Mike

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Hi Mike,

I'm pretty much useless at researching MMs, but I know that there are at least a couple of Pals that are. If you were to post his name/details, they may be able to find the award schedule he appeared on, and tell you broadly when that related to.

As an afterthought, Divisional HQ diaries often contain awards and decorations that appear in "Routine Orders". As I understand it, the award process of awarding a MM was often relatively quick after the event, so if you could find one, that may help to narrow down the time line

Regards
Chris

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Morning Chris thanks as ever for your interest. He is Private 44655 Barclay James Stewart of the 103rd Machine Gun Company later 91 Machine Gun Company 7th Division then to 7th Machine Gun Battalion Italy.  I think probably won award with 103rd MG Coy between 24/3/1917 and 4/5/1917

25/7/1916 Pte 1520 Barclay J Stewart of the 1/6th Black Watch transferred to MGC Pte 44655

27/9/1916 Joined 103rd MG Coy 34th Division in field about Wez Macquart

13/2/1917 To hospital St Omer

24/3/1917 Rejoined 103rd MG Coy 34th Division at Louez

9/4/1917 Involved First Battle of the Scarpe

4/5/1917 To hospital

18/7/1917 London Gazette entry MM p 7285 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30188/supplement/7285/data.pdf

20/7/1917 Rejoined 103rd MG Coy 34th Division in field

6/9/1917 Wounded in action to Fld Amb - Hospital Rouen

9/10/1917 Posted 91 MG Coy 7th Division

10/10/1917 Joined 91 MG Coy 7th Division in field

Mike

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From The Great War Medal Collectors Companio , Howard Williamson "" MM London Gazette 18th July, 1917

Schedule numbers noted from 90,900 to 94,900. Another Arras Gazette covering operations from April to early June,1917. This will include Roeux ,Bullecourt, and actions on the Hindenburg line. Dates noted so far 9th April,1917 to 4th June,1917. Canadian Vimy Ridge Awards"

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    You may as well have the image of his MM index card while it is still free from the National Archives - reference WO 372/23/170989

     As Edward I states the 18 July 1917 covers April to early June 1917. His MM schedule no. of 90818 was actually covered by this gazette.

    His MM could be for one of the Battles of the Scarpe.

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Many thanks all. Much obliged. I've been through the 103 MG Coy diary and Brigade diary and will have a look at the 34th Division diary when get a minute. No specific mention so far, probably Scarpe/Chemical works area.

 

Thanks again Mike

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This is for April 1917. Interestingly the 4 awards to the 103rd Coy MGC are gazetted in LG 18.7.17 but fall into the very large block gazetted in the 9.7.17 Gazette. All the known ones in this gazette are for April.

Regards
Chris 

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