poona guard Posted 18 October , 2022 Share Posted 18 October , 2022 Anyone got any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 October , 2022 Share Posted 18 October , 2022 Might the triangle be split down the middle into triangles of different colour, but rendered similar on orthochromatic film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 18 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2022 Indeed, I agree it is a two colour patch but whose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 October , 2022 Share Posted 18 October , 2022 I think it’s just another variation of the Royal Artillery two colour flash. As I mentioned previously there were a variety and it was only in WW2 and subsequently that a standard configuration began to be preferred. The enclosed shows one early example. I’m sorry that I can’t comment on the precise unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 18 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2022 Possibly but feels like infantry to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 October , 2022 Share Posted 18 October , 2022 21 minutes ago, poona guard said: Possibly but feels like infantry to me. Well he has no spurs, whip, or bandolier, so I can understand that. Perhaps RGA in India, who wore the dress of a dismounted corps for the most part, but that’s just my speculation. It might be useful to compare the shading of the flash as rendered by orthochromatic film with other images known to show artillery. I retain an open mind about other options, although I can’t think of an infantry unit offhand that favoured a triangle helmet flash. For tropical helmets, and apart from Scottish regiments, most infantry seemed to favour a diamond, or square, the latter often based on (originally created from) the strap from their scarlet, or rifle green undress frocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 18 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 October , 2022 Essex regiment and some welsh units used triangles that i can think of without checking. The shoulder title under a magnifying glass doesn't look like the start of an R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 October , 2022 Share Posted 18 October , 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, poona guard said: Essex regiment and some welsh units used triangles that i can think of without checking. The shoulder title under a magnifying glass doesn't look like the start of an R. I understand. I remember the Essex used purple and black, I believe from the colours of the old 44th and 56th (Pompadours), and the SWB green and white, and Welsh Regiment red and white (if I recall correctly). I thought the latter two were squares, or perhaps diamonds, but I’m not positive offhand. Even the Middlesex used a diamond. The triangle was a bit less common I think from memory. NB. It is a noticeably more shallow triangle than usual for artillery. Edited 18 October , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladonia Posted 19 October , 2022 Share Posted 19 October , 2022 Hello there A posible unit for this chap could be the 1/5th Batt, Essex Regiment, part of 54th Division. ORs wore a triangle split red/black on the left of the pagri, and on the right sleeve, a hint of which seems to show just below the shoulder? This info from Mike Hibberd and Gary Gibbs insignia booklet William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 19 October , 2022 Share Posted 19 October , 2022 4 minutes ago, caladonia said: Hello there A posible unit for this chap could be the 1/5th Batt, Essex Regiment, part of 54th Division. ORs wore a triangle split red/black on the left of the pagri, and on the right sleeve, a hint of which seems to show just below the shoulder? This info from Mike Hibberd and Gary Gibbs insignia booklet William Yes, I noticed that hint of a badge on the right shoulder. You might well be on to something I think William. Good spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 19 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2022 Agreed William. that is what I think it is but there is evidence that the colours were the other way round as well. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KENDO Posted 20 October , 2022 Share Posted 20 October , 2022 The four Essex battalions in 161.Bde, 54 (East Anglian) Division were definitely all red and black. Kendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 20 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 20 October , 2022 Sure, but the evidence to front colour is mixed. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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