Is there a soldiers died for the RN?

[Alison Arnold]

Hi all,

Can anybody tell me if there is an equivelent to "Soldiers died" for the Royal Marine Light Infantry.

Regards

Ali

[Michael]

Ali

Sadly there isn't. You might be interested to know that the attestation papers are intact. They are in massive ledgers in the map room

Michael

[Alison Arnold]

Michael,

Is that at the NA (formally the PRO)? If so I will have to get myself a babysitter and go and have a look.

Thanks for the information.

Best Wishes

Ali

[Alan Seymour]

Ali,

The answer is yes:-

1. "With Full and Grateful Hearts" - A Register of Royal Marines Deaths 1914-19 by The Royal Marines

Historical Society.

2. "The Cross of Sacrifice Vol. IV" - NCO's, Men and Women of the UK, Commonwealth and Empire who Died

in the Service of The R.N., R.M., R.N.A.S., R.F.C. & R.A.F. by S.D. & S.B. Jarvis, 1914-1921. by S.D. & D.B.

Jarvis

and for Officers

3. "The Cross of Sacrifice Vol.II" - Officers who Died in the Service of the:- R.N., R.N.R., R.N.V.R., R.M.,

R.N.A.S., & R.A.F. 1914-1919 by S.D. & D.B. Jarvis

Alan Seymour

[Paul Reed]

I have a copy of the above if you want anything looked up, email me.

There is also a ADM252 (? or is 242?) at the PRO/NA which is a large register of all RN/RM deaths in WW1 - it gives a lot of additonal information often not contained in the CWGC records, including cause of death.

[munce]

Are those attestation papers different from the service records which are on microfilm?

[Jonathan Saunders]

Munce - they are one and the same.

Alibee - best to go to the PRO/NA and look out the attestation papers themselves but in answer to yr original question I think I have seen on ebay recently what I presume is a "home-made" cd for sale at something like £50 of all RN/RM deaths. This might be a transcription of the "large register" mentioned below.

[Andrew Hesketh]

Along with Paul, I have "With Full and Grateful Hearts" - A Register of Royal Marines Deaths 1914-19, and will gladly do look ups.

[Michael]

Ali

When you said 'soldiers died', I thought you meant an equivalent to the searchable database on cd. Yes the attestation papers are at the NA. They give details on ships / units served along with physical description, DOB, etc.

If I remember rightly, there are alphabetical microfilm listings where you can get the service number (equivalent to MIC's but on film) for each RMLI division (Chatham, Portsmouth, etc). You then go to one of the printed books to find the reference for the ledger with the range of service numbers. You then order it as an original document. One of those printed help sheets at the NA explains it quite well.

Michael

[Alison Arnold]

Thanks for all the answers guys.

Paul- have emailed you off forum.

Michael: Yes I originally was looking for an equivalent to the searchable CD to save myself the trip at the moment. Looks like I will have to get the babysitter lined and go to the PRO.

Andrew- Thanks for the offer- Paul beat you to it!!

Thanks once again

Ali

[Guest Ian Bowbrick]

What about the RND?

Ian

[Alan Seymour]

Ian,

The roll of honour for the Royal Naval Division (RND) is based on a collection of mimeographed casualty slips and lists which were originally in the possession of the 63rd RND., Record Office. This was later passed to the Imperial War Museum (IWM) by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

It does not claim to be a definitive roll of honour, one must accept that over the years some of the original records may have gone astray or were later subject to later corrections. Six battalions of the RND., are covered, Anson, Drake, Hawke, Hood, Howe & Nelson. Copies of each battalion may still be available from the IWM?

Alan Seymour.

[Guest Ian Bowbrick]

Alan,

Many thanks.

Ian