SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Hi all, i know my Great Grandad died of wounds on 1st October 1915 at Loos, but any more info would be greatly appreciated, first post, so i'm a bit clueless. Regards JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 5 October , 2022 Admin Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Welcome to the forum. War diary will be available to download free of charge from the National Archives website. You have to register but that’s also free. I see he’s buried at Etaples cemetery, so would have succumbed to his wounds a few days after he was wounded. Plot 4 is where my husband’s great uncle is buried, having died 1/10/15 after being wounded 25/9/15. I’m actually sat in the queue at Calais waiting to go home after my annual visit to Loos so can probably add some more information when I’m home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 thank you for your swift reply Michelle, hope you had a great time, if you have any info it would be greatly appreciated, i have a small amount, but would love to know more. Regards JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 5 October , 2022 Admin Share Posted 5 October , 2022 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353164 link to war diaries here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 very kind, thank you Michelle, i shall register now JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinesheadvillage Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Hi JB I take it that you have seen this photo. https://co-curate.ncl.ac.uk/ryhope-at-war/ If you haven't, hope it helps Kind Regards Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 I have seen it Derek, but i thank you greatly for taking the time to find it and send it to me. Regards JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 I assume you have also seen his brother Bernard who also fell Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 oh wow, didn't know that, thank you, do you know what R.F.A means? JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Royal field Artillery Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Thank you kindly Ray JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Issac died of his wounds in St Johns Hospital Etaples The register of soldiers effects list his sister Margaret Ann Brannon as the sole legatee of his effects The claimant of a dependants pension is shown as Miss Annie B Holdcroft (later married Mrs McGowan) of 7 Charles Street Boldon Collery Durham guardian of illegitimate child Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 As an aside Isaacs brother Bernard appears to have died at home after discharge not commemorated on CWGC ? Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SouthendJohn said: first post Welcome to GWF 43 minutes ago, RaySearching said: The claimant of a dependants pension is shown as Miss Annie B Holdcroft (later married Mrs McGowan) of 7 Charles Street Boldon Collery Durham guardian of illegitimate child Isaac BRANNON, 13484, Yorkshire Regt. As mentioned by Ray ... This is one of several pension cards - it shows a bit of a 'complication' as his mother also made a pension claim for the loss of her other son Bernard BRANNON, 2034, RFA [who had also earlier made a disability claim having been discharged 25.11.15 but then died 11.1.17 - info from other pension cards] Image thanks to WFA/Fold3 This is Isaac's medal index card for a 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal. Image thanks to Ancestry First theatre of war [which got him his medals] was France qualifying/typically landing 9-5-15 - based on this and his death 1-10-15 it he seems that he had a quite short war in France - he may perhaps be mentioned in published Casualty Lists or even in hospital admissions and discharge records [other members may be able to perhaps assist with these, perhaps ...] M Edited 5 October , 2022 by Matlock1418 remove duplicated MIC images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 His Medal Card (image courtesy of Ancestry) shows that his war was only 3 weeks. Landed in France on the 9 September 1915. Mr M -- you beat me to it again! (Memo to self -- must type faster!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RaySearching said: Isaacs brother Bernard appears to have died at home after discharge not commemorated on CWGC ? From the Register of Soldier's Effects entry there is no mention of cause of death [it only mentions his £3 War Gratuity for his service - I believe that £3 is the minimum rate payable, >6 months home service ?? or any O/seas service] Couldn't see a cause of death on the pension cards either. A Death Certificate should provide cause of death [which might not qualify him for CWGC, or it might!] I suggest the OP perhaps gets it and lets us know - a £7 PDF from GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp This rather looks like him Name: Age at Death (in years): BRANNON, BERNARD 21 GRO Reference: 1917 M Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 722 M Edited 5 October , 2022 by Matlock1418 correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 (edited) Isaac BRANNON CWGC entry https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/499320/isaac-brannon - Buried Etaples Military Cemetery so it seems very likely he was in the evacuation chain [looking back over the thread I see @Michelle Young has already mentioned this scenario of wounds] - So hospital A&D could well be on the record ... Over to another member(s) ... M Edited 5 October , 2022 by Matlock1418 add mention of MY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 5 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: So hospital A&D could well be on the record Isaac died of his wounds in St Johns Hospital Etaples as on register of soldiers effects Cannott see a silver war badge record for his brother Bernard ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Just now, RaySearching said: Isaac died of his wounds in St Johns Hospital Etaples as on register of soldiers effects Certainly not disputing [but can't see posted], but perhaps an A&D record also. ?? M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Here you are then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 (edited) Bernard BRANNON 1 hour ago, RaySearching said: Injuries = accident during Home Service ??? 15 minutes ago, RaySearching said: Cannott see a silver war badge record for his brother Bernard ! Nor a MIC for medals so does rather look like HS. Perhaps injuries were so bad that a SWB didn't seem necessary - and he was discharged before they were introduced in 1916 so perhaps Bernard didn't retrospectively apply ??? Isaac BRANNON 7 minutes ago, RaySearching said: Here you are then M Edited 5 October , 2022 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Thank you all for your help and for taking the time to search and reply to me. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 An additional pension card for Bernard indicates that Bernard died fron disease ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthendJohn Posted 5 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2022 4 minutes ago, RaySearching said: An additional pension card for Bernard indicates that Bernard died fron disease ! any way of finding out where he was buried Ray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 5 October , 2022 Share Posted 5 October , 2022 Bernard is listed as having died at Ryhope Durham his death registered in the Sunderland registration district most likley buried in the Ryhope cemetery you could try and contact Durham burial records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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