Bay. Feldlazarett Nr. 44

[Jaeger6]

Hello,

the death of my great-granduncle Paul Nawrath was reported to the registry office of his hometown, but the unit he served in gives me some trouble. The entry reads:

"Die Ersatz-Abteilung der 5. und 6. Garde-Feldartillerie-Regiments-Versorgungsabteilung zu Jüterbog hat mitgeteilt, dass der Kanonier der leichten Munitionskolonne 442 (früher I/204), Paul Nawrath, [...] im Bayerischen Feldlazarett Nummer 44 am vierten Februar des Jahres tausend neunhundert siebzehn vormittags um drei Uhr verstorben sei und zwar an Folgen von Erschöpfung und Grippe."

That is: "The replacement section of the 5th and 6th Guards Field Artillery Regiment Supply Section at Jüterbog has reported that the gunner of the light ammunition column 442 (formerly I/204), Paul Nawrath, [...] died in the Bavarian field hospital number 44 on the fourth of February of the year one thousand nine hundred seventeen in the morning at three o'clock, as a result of exhaustion and influenza." (The original is attached)

I was neither able to trace the leichte Munitionskolonne 442 nor the Bay. Feldlazarett 44. Due to the fact that the mentioned G FAR belonged to 1. Garde-Reserve-Division I assumed that the unit was stationed SW of Péronne, somewhere around Frise, directly at the Somme but I couldn't find anything in the usual sources (GenWiki, denkmalprojekt.org, church registries...). I/204 looked to me like first battalion of RIR 204 but this didn't help either.

Does anyone have an educated guess how to interpret the death certificate.?

Markus

[charlie2]

Markus

I understand I/204 to be I. Abteilung Leichte Mun. Kolonne 204. Following a reorganisation the Mun. Kolonnen were renumbered. 

Source - Cron p252-3

Charlie

 

Edited 1 October , 2022 by charlie2

[JWK]

There's a monument in Scheinfeld in Bayern listing a Dr. August Albrecht who was with "b. Feldlazarett nr. 44" ("bayerischen Feldlazarett nr 44"??)

http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/2019/scheinfeld_lk-neustadt-a-d-aisch-bad-windsheim_70-71_wk1_wk2_bay.html

He died in "Birtiscorin". Closest I can find is a Vîrteşcoiu in Romania. But were there Bavarians in Romania?

 

Bavarian Verlustliste nr 341 listing Dr August Albrecht

http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/5682106

 

 

 

[GreyC]

As he was Bavarian in a Bavarian unit you should find him in the Bavarian Kriegsstammrollen on Ancestry,,accessability provided.

 

GreyC

[charlie2]

30 minutes ago, GreyC said:

As he was Bavarian in a Bavarian unit you should find him in the Bavarian Kriegsstammrollen on Ancestry,,accessability provided.

 

GreyC

I don‘t see the connection to Bavaria apart from the Feldlazarett, have I missed something? 
There is a Paul Nawroth in the Bavarian records but he is 10 years older, perhaps a coincidence but he was also born in Silesia and served in the Artillery.

Charlie

[JWK]

Via Dr. August Albrecht in the Bavarian Kriegsstammrollen we may find the location of Bay. Feldlazarett 44 where Paul Nawroth died.

[charlie2]

Oops, I thought Nawrath was the person who might be found in the Bavarian records 

[AOK4]

Hello,

Leichte Munitionskolonne 442 was created on 1 February 1917 from the leichte Munitionskolonne der I. Abteilung/Feldartillerie-Regiment 204.

Ersatz unit for lMK 442 was indeed the Ersatz-Abteilung/5./6. Garde-Feldartillerie-Regiment

lMK 442 was attached to Alpenkorps from 01.02.1917 to 28.02.1918 and to I/FAR 204 from 28.08.1918 to 30.03.1918. It was renamed lMK 1401 on 01.04.1918.

Jan

[Jaeger6]

Hello,

thanks to everyone for your support.

Following the order of battle of the Alpenkorps and the diary of an Oberleutnant of FAR 204 (http://www.uni-cms.net/feldpostsammlung/index.php?ID=233), the Bay. Feldlazarett Nr. 44 must have been situated close to Jaristea in Greater Wallachia, as FAR 204 stood at the river Putna between the cities Bolotesti and Putna.

I wouldn't have searched in this area without your help. Thanks again.

Markus

 

[charlie2]

I‘m not sure if Dr Albrecht‘s record helps as I can‘t make out the fourth entry in the list of campaigns. B.FL44 was previously b.FL 203

Charlie

[JWK]

Rhumanien (Romania)?

[charlie2]

1 minute ago, JWK said:

Rhumanien (Romania)?

Thats what I thought at first but it doesn‘t seem to fit, the „h“ in Frankreich is different.

[Jaeger6]

37 minutes ago, charlie2 said:

„h“ in Frankreich is different.

Maybe he started to write the h, noticed that it would be a spelling mistake and put the first line of the u on the half written h to write correctly Rumänien. The only letter in Sütterlin that looks like this is a capital B which wouldn't make any sense.

[knittinganddeath]

The word above the mystery word looks like Siebenburg, and Siebenbürgen is a German form of Transylvania/Romania.

Edited 2 October , 2022 by knittinganddeath

[charlie2]

1 hour ago, knittinganddeath said:

The word above the mystery word looks like Siebenburg, and Siebenbürgen is a German form of Transylvania/Romania.

They are campaigns in areas rather than towns - Frankreich, Serbien, Siebenbürgen & Rumänien?

[JWK]

6 hours ago, Jaeger6 said:

Bay. Feldlazarett Nr. 44 must have been situated close to Jaristea in Greater Wallachia

Vartescoiu/Virtescoiu is about 8 km / 5 miles from Jaristea

Edited 2 October , 2022 by JWK

[Jaeger6]

15 hours ago, JWK said:

Vartescoiu/Virtescoiu is about 8 km / 5 miles from Jaristea

That could make sense, but how did you come up with Vârtescoiu?

[charlie2]

I‘ve had a look for a few hours at historical maps online and the very detailed maps in the A-H Official history and have come to the conclusion „Birtiscorin“ is a mistranscription. There doesn‘t appear to be any town/village with any similar name.

Charlie

[AOK4]

I agree with charlie2.

But, if you want to be 100% sure, you can go to Munich and check the war diary of the Feldlazarett.

There is a regimental history of FAR 204, but it seems very rare and there's no guarantee there's much info in it.

Jan

[JWK]

13 hours ago, Jaeger6 said:

That could make sense, but how did you come up with Vârtescoiu?

"Birtiscorin" is mistranscribed, as is blatantly obvious, as is "Gienchy" in the link of the Denkmal I sent earlier. Maybe it's the transcriber, maybe it's on the Denkmal, I don't know.

So, I found in earlier searches that a V is often transcribed as a B, and "corin" at the end could very well be "coiu" (if you're not familiar with the written place-name)

Then a "fuzzy search" on geonames.org

That's how I got to Vartescoiu/Virtescoiu.

Which, coïncidentally is close to Jaristea.   Jaristea was definitely nót on my radar at the time.

 

Absolutely nó doubt that my work-method, and outcome, is going to be shot down in flames before anyone even tried it, but there it is.

[Jaeger6]

On 03/10/2022 at 22:55, JWK said:

That's how I got to Vartescoiu/Virtescoiu.

Sounds really convincing to me. Meanwhile, I asked a Romanian pupil of mine to read out the name for me and the pronounciation of the V sounded like a mixture of V and B which gives even more credibility to your results.

Thanks for that.