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Gebbly

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Hi Everyone,

When clearing out my grandfathers garage years ago I found a "casing"? I  put it in a cupboard and didnt think any more of it. I stumbled across it again recently and I got curious. I wondered if anyone could provide any insight into just what it was or any details regarding it?

Dimensions:

length 1 foot

top diameter 2.25 inches

bottom diameter a hair under 3 inches

Indented around the side (as though someone had used a collection of individual letter punches) it reads

"FIRED IN THE GREAT WAR"

"1914 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18"

"TO GEOFFERY M WYATT"

"FROM L.J.H" (letters L.J.H in italics)

 

Then there are a whole collection of different markings in the base but I'm not sure what any of them mean. I'll attach a photo of the bottom and can take more if it helps.

I would be really interested in any light that can be shed on this object, thanks

Paul

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In case it helps I'll put a picture of the full casing here too.

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Hello Paul,

Welcome to the Forum.

I can only answer some of the easy markings,

R L = Royal Laboratories (Woolwich Arsenal)

Arrowhead in a circle = property of British Govt.

1900 = year this shell casing was made.

The experts will be along shortly to answer the rest!

Nice piece, by the way.

Regards,

JMB

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It's a 6-pounder shellcase from a shoulder-controlled light naval gun intended to defend ships against torpedo boats. I think the 'N' indicates naval issue. The 'CFF'indicates it was loaded with a ful charge of cordite twice, but I don't know why they've been stricken out, or if that's supposed to form an 'H' for hardening? It's a similar case to the 6-pounders later used in 'male' tanks.

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It’s a MkIII cartridge case for the QF 6-Pounder Hotchkiss naval gun:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_6-pounder_Hotchkiss

Inspected and passed by naval inspector 6 on 11th April 1900. As mentioned, the same gun and cartridge case type was later used in British tanks in WWI.

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Thats fascinating info thanks everyone! So I now understand what it is and in what weapon it was used :

MkIII cartridge case for the QF 6-Pounder Hotchkiss shoulder-controlled light naval gun

and you have deciphered some of the stamps. This is brilliant stuff.

The identified stamps are :

1900 : Year the shell was inspected and passed

4 : Month the shell was inspected and passed

11 : Day the shell was inspected and passed

6 : Identification of the naval inspector

R L : Royal Laboratories (Woolwich Arsenal) Does that mean this is where it was made?

Arrowhead in a circle : property of British Govt.

N : Naval Issue (so put together with the arrowhead I guess it was used by British Royal Navy?)

CFF : Loaded with full charge of cordite twice. (strikethroughs are a mystery at present, Maybe a H for hardening? Now I need to read up on what "hardening" is)

Is the "III" on the base what indicates it is a MKIII cartridge?

 

Can anyone fill in the blanks?

Other markings as yet unidentified :

.00

uppercase "I" in a circle

7

a square under the year

D

32

 

Thanks so much for the great help so far. I'm trying members of the family to see if anyone recognises the names on the writing on the side.

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Yes, made at Woolwich.

Regards,

JMB

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