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Jude Gibson

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Hi folks, not strictly a GWF topic but one which might interest others. My local paper in Ireland Westmearh Examiner reports that  a Victoria Cross is to be auctioned on Sept. 14th in London at Noonans Mayfair (the recipient was Thomas Henry Kavanagh of Westmeath) and was awarded it for bravery during the Indian Mutiny. What I thought was interesting is  that he is 1 of only 5 who received thr VC who was a civilian. Does any member know who the othe 4 were? and were any of them  awarded the VC for action during WW1.

best wishes

Jude

 

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Hi,

Google search on “civilian VC recipients gives this site - 

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/victoria-cross

It states - 

Seven civilians have been awarded the VC: Thomas Kavanagh (1857); William Fraser McDonell (1857); Ross Lowis Mangles of the Bengal Civil Service (1857); George Bell Chicken, a civilian volunteer with the Indian Naval Brigade (1858); the Reverend James Adams of the Bengal Ecclesiastical Department (1879) and Captains Frederick Parslow and Archibald Smith of the Mercantile Marine (1915-17). The latter two recipients were posthumously commissioned into the Royal Naval Reserve to make them eligible for the VC.”

Steve

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Thanks Steve for such a prompt reply. I am going to ask your advice as I see one of your interests is the Coldstream Guards. My wife's relative Walter Taylor 2nd Batt Coldstream Guards no 19565 machine gun corp was KIA on 10/Oct/1917. Nothing remained , his name is on Tyne Cot monument. Is there any way of finding out more detail of what happened to him, where it happened etc

 

 

Thanks again

Jude

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Hi Jude,

 

I can’t see he was Machine Gun Corps - CWGC say 2nd CG 

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/827264/walter-taylor/

 

Battalion War Diary is available for free download via UK National Archives if you register an email address there. 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

It’s unlikely he will be named but it will give you an idea of what they were doing at the time.

The Regimental History is free to download via Hathitrust site. Link to Volume 2 that covers 3rd Battle of Ypres is here - 

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b790665&view=1up&seq=12&skin=2021

Some CG records are available on findmypast site

Steve 

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On 01/09/2022 at 20:15, Jude Gibson said:

Thanks Steve for such a prompt reply. I am going to ask your advice as I see one of your interests is the Coldstream Guards. My wife's relative Walter Taylor 2nd Batt Coldstream Guards no 19565 machine gun corp was KIA on 10/Oct/1917. Nothing remained , his name is on Tyne Cot monument. Is there any way of finding out more detail of what happened to him, where it happened etc

 

 

Thanks again

Jude

What makes you think he was MGC?

And you’re better off starting new threads for  different questions otherwise they just get mixed 

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'Soldiers Who Died In The First World War' have his Regiment listed as:

Foot Guards (Including Guards Machine Gun Regiment).

I suspect that's where Jude got MGC from?

TEW

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