Frederick Beadle (possibly)

[WD61JG]

Hello,

This is taken from a group photograph dating from circa 1921 of a reunion of the men who had served in WW1 from the village of Walkern, Hertfordshire.

It is believed this gentleman is Frederick Beadle (b.1890 Watton-at-Stone) and he is displaying a military medal and either a 1914 or 1914-15 star.  If someone is able to please identify the regimental lapel badge it may be possible with the combination of medals to figure out if it is definitely Frederick Beadle or rule it out as being him.

Many thanks.

Edited 7 August , 2022 by WD61JG

[Michelle Young]

It’s not a great image but I’m wondering RAMC? 

[Michelle Young]

Maybe @FROGSMILEmight do better with an ID 

[Acknown]

How about Royal Sussex? There is a Frederick Beadle therein - G/13165.

Acknown

Addition: But no Star.

 

Edited 7 August , 2022 by Acknown

[SteveE]

It’s not the best of images but I think it’s the Hertfordshire regiment.

Steve

[FROGSMILE]

12 minutes ago, Michelle Young said:

It’s not a great image but I’m wondering RAMC? 

Looks like RAMC to me too Michelle, good call I think. Probably a collar badge used as a lapel pin.

[FROGSMILE]

And here’s the more circular Herts Regiment for comparison.

Edited 7 August , 2022 by FROGSMILE

[Tawhiri]

There is a Frederick Beadle, service number 7249704, serving with the RAMC, but he was only entitled to the British War and Victory Medals, along with the General Service Medal with a clasp for NW Persia. No sign of a 1914 or 1914/15 Star being awarded, which would seem to be consistent with his service number which implies enlistment later in the war. He also seems to have continued his service post-war, as the address on the back of his medal card is care of the OC, 20th Company, RAMC, Tidworth. This is borne out by his service number which falls within the range used by the RAMC after the 1920 renumbering of British Army service numbers. The fact that he has the British War and Victory Medals shows that he did serve in the war, but the lack of a 1914 or 1914/15 Star means his first posting to a theatre of war was after 1915.

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/new-british-army-numbers-issued-in-1920/

The only Beadle coming up with a connection to the Hertfordshire Regiment is a William Beadle, who subsequently served with the East Surrey Regiment and the ASC.  

Edited 7 August , 2022 by Tawhiri

[Acknown]

WD61JG - It seems as if we're drawing a blank for a Fredrick Beadle MC in the RAMC or Herts. I can't find one in the LG either. Is there another name in the frame? Do you have a village Roll of Honour?
Acknown

 

Edited 7 August , 2022 by Acknown

[johntanner]

Very much looks like a Royal British Legion lapel badge to me. In gold and blue enamel.

 

[high wood]

The badge in his lapel looks like that of the Royal Bucks Hussars to me.

Edited 7 August , 2022 by high wood
Adding photograph.

[WD61JG]

Thanks very much for all the replies.

In answer to Acknown - there is only a Roll of Honour for those men who lost their lives, that I am aware of but there is another suggestion of it possibly being a William Cox, but had been more suggestions from old village folk it was a Beadle but looks like they are wrong!

Edited 7 August , 2022 by WD61JG

[Tawhiri]

A very quick look at the medal index cards produces at least two William Cox's who did serve with the RAMC, and were awarded the 1914/15 Star. These are William Cox, service number 1613, and William Cox, service number 1768. The number of potential candidates gets a little larger if William had a second initial. The problem is that you'd need some further corroborating evidence to identify if either of these were a possibility, assuming that the man in the photo has been correctly named, along with the identification of the lapel badge that he is wearing. 

Edited 7 August , 2022 by Tawhiri

[high wood]

I tried searching the London Gazette for 'Walkern' using the date range 01/01/1916 and 31/12/1919 as Military Medal winners usually had their place of residence along side their details in their entries. There are no M.M. winners who gave their place of residence as Walkern, which appears to be  small village. There are lots of entries for nearby Stevenage but none for a Beadle.