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CRASHED AIRCRAFT


GROBBY

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Can anyone help me identify this crashed or shot down aircraft .I think the photo was taken possibly at the begining of May 1916 in possibly the St Quentin area as the 28th Reserve Division was in this area at the time and could of been sent by the person with the cross over his head

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It's a BE 2c, serial number 2049, belonging to 13 squadron, RFC, which was shot down on 5 December 1915 near Bapaume while on photo escort. The crew were 2Lt ARH Browne and 1AM WH Cox, both killed.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/294852/arthur-richard-howe-browne/

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/294957/w-h-cox/

http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/browne-a.r.h.-arthur-richard-howe

http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/7000290329-cox-w.h.-william-henry

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Pictures of the crash are very often seen.

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The sender of the card does not mention anything about the shot down plane. He writes that it is hot, that he is thirsty and that he has nothing to drink. His unit is the Feldrekrutendepot of IR 121, a regiment from Württemberg.

GreyC

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Thank you so much GreyC .I noticed his unit was so far from the crash site but found it strange that there was a cross over one of the people indicating that it might be the writer ,another ancient puzzle .

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Hi Grobby,

to clarify: the regiment was originally from Württemberg. Were it was exactly stationed (especially its Feldrekrutendepot) at the time the card was sent, is another question. If a rough localisation is enough, they were with  4. Armee at Ypern (Ypres) in Flandern at that time.

GreyC

 

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Undoubtedly the man is from Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment 121 (which belonged to the 26. Reserve-Division, see the stamp) and which was in the area.

Jan

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Thank you both for your promt and very helpfull information . I found the card on a shelf in the museum I work at ( A WW1 Airdrome ) and wanted to see if there was any information I could find on it . It is great to find a story behind a card . I wonder if he survived the british attack on July 1st as his division had a lot of losses .

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20 hours ago, GROBBY said:

. I wonder if he survived the british attack on July 1st as his division had a lot of losses .

Always assuming he joined RIR121 from the Feldrekrutendepot, I cannot find a Musketier Fr* Dürr in the casualty lists for that period. Whether or not he survived the war is something cannot answer with the limited information available. 
Charlie

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Hello,

It's Friedrich Dürr, born 1 December 1895 in Simmozheim and working there as a "Goldarbeiter". He had been called up on 5 August 1915 and sent to the Rekrutendepot of the 26. Reserve-Division on 25.09.1915. He served in the Rekrutenkompagnie/RIR 121 since 27.09.1915 until 21.08.1916, when he was sent to RIR 121.

He died later: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/2664049

He was then serving with 3/RIR 121.

Extract from the Kriegsstammrolle courtesy of the archives of Württemberg is attached.

His grave is now lost.

 

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Thank you so much for your help ,its interesting to know what heppened to the soldiers that wrote these cards home. Thank you again for your time and help

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