small pack

[battle of loos]

Good evening

I will need your help to determine the period of use of this Small Pack :

2 passers-by are made of iron :

there is still the trace of a seam on the flap :

stamp :

not finding something similar on karkee, I thought of French, as they tried the webb before the war.

thank's in advance.

regards

michel

Edited 23 June , 2022 by battle of loos

[peregrinvs]

Looks like a normal 1937 Pattern haversack to me. I believe some in postwar European use (Danish?) had extra loops stitched on to them.

[Chasemuseum]

The use of steel buckles is not normal for either British  P1908 or P1937 web equipment, and indicates a manufacture order for another country or the commercial/retail market.

[battle of loos]

good morning,

thank's for your answer.

michel

[fellop]

I think I agree with peregrinvs, that it is 37 Pattern. Still issued in my Corps when I enlisted in 1964 during recruit training along with a Kings Crown brass cap badge, and BD’s [using up old stock] on recruits was the plan.

Many a happy [!] spare hour with the blanco brush, brasso and button stick

I don’t think the buckles are ‘Steel’ just very old, dirty and tarnished brass. Soon have them shining brightly again in a jiffy or its many a night on ‘Show Parade’ for you my lad.  

Regards

Peter

[museumtom]

A magnet will give you the answer...

[battle of loos]

good morning,

all the loops or passers-by are made of brass except the 2 passers-by from below which are made of iron.

I doubt a British use.
Belgian or French post 1945.

michel

[4thGordons]

I agree - think I have a Belgian marked P37 small pack somewhere with an extra loop on the flap in the position shown here

I have also used a '37 small pack like this slung with a single shoulder strap as my "hunting" bag for decades - it's just the right size and has withstood all manner of weather and abuse from me, it's unobtrusive and the thick canvas provides a moderate amount of protection to optics etc inside. 80+ years old and still in use!

Chris

[Pete_C]

13 hours ago, Chasemuseum said:

The use of steel buckles is not normal for either British  P1908 or P1937 web equipment, and indicates a manufacture order for another country or the commercial/retail market.

Not to say I think the haversack is British made but the use of steel fittings was normalised in late WW2 and post war British production of 1937 Pattern web equipment - some examples from the John Bodsworth collection. 
 

Pete

 

[green]

For info on British and Imperial web gear P1901 to P1958 see Karkee Web site.

[battle of loos]

good evening,

thank's a lot for your answer.

regards

michel