stripeyman Posted 12 June , 2022 Share Posted 12 June , 2022 On Friday night there was a programme about the Sopwith Camel. Bits of it was OK but not all, in fact too much noise and generally not so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyle3 Posted 13 June , 2022 Share Posted 13 June , 2022 switched off after < 5mins. Dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 15 June , 2022 Share Posted 15 June , 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 01:33, doyle3 said: switched off after < 5mins. Dire. We recorded it and managed to sit through the whole thing. Poor. Very poor. Surprised to see Sir Max Hastings slumming it. The cost of living crisis must be starting to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 15 June , 2022 Share Posted 15 June , 2022 One of the tabloids used to have (may be still does) a strip cartoon called "Beau Peep" about a soldier in the Foreign Legion. The camel in that was called Sopwith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Bolt Posted 6 July , 2022 Share Posted 6 July , 2022 (edited) On 15/06/2022 at 10:33, jonbem said: One of the tabloids Sopwith Tabloid? :-) I've only just caught up with this and yes, dreadful. Rob Bell is quite good, Roger 'Dodge' Bailey is excellent (espec on a programme on the Bleriot XI where they gave him the time to speak). Prof Kate Williams is surely excellent in her field ... but ‘If it wasn’t for the Camel would we have won World War one? I’m not sure.’ Perhaps this was not rhetorical, perhaps she just doesn't know. I really don't know what she means here: ‘If it wasn’t for the Camel, we wouldn’t have the Spitfire, we wouldn’t have any of the jets we have.’ Edited 6 July , 2022 by Open Bolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 7 July , 2022 Share Posted 7 July , 2022 On 06/07/2022 at 12:12, Open Bolt said: Prof Kate Williams is surely excellent in her field ... Possibly, but which field is that? Her TV persona isn't great: she sits hunched forward and very defensive, almost as if she isn't quite sure what she's talking about. Oh ... silly me. Of course. As for the programme, we tried the Spitfire one but turned off before the first set of adverts. Too much hyperbole isn't good for old chaps like me. Rob Bell should stick to what he knows: the architecture of engineering. Military aviation history is not his forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Bolt Posted 8 July , 2022 Share Posted 8 July , 2022 17 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said: Possibly, but which field is that? Ohh I should think expertise on Emma Hamilton easily qualifies for this programme. Kris Hendrix works at the RAF Museum but his youtube content is almost as cringeworthy. I agree, the Spitfire episode was unwatchable (well, watchable perhaps but with the sound off I suppose). https://www.channel5.com/show/british-planes-that-won-the-war-with-rob-bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyacinth1326 Posted 9 July , 2022 Share Posted 9 July , 2022 Kate Williams is to be respected but like Dan Snow, she is not an expert in every facet of history (even if TV decision makers want to make you think she is). She reminds me of a benevolent Pre-Raphaelite spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 9 July , 2022 Share Posted 9 July , 2022 I must ask. In which field of history is Dan Snow an expert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 9 July , 2022 Share Posted 9 July , 2022 24 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: I must ask. In which field of history is Dan Snow an expert? Any period he's paid to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 9 July , 2022 Share Posted 9 July , 2022 6 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said: In which field of history is Dan Snow an expert? I couldn't say, but at least Lloyd-George knew his great-grandfather. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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