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Hello everyone,

 

I am currently doing research about the French “Armée d'Orient” during the Serbian Expedition conducted from October to December 1915. As part of this, I am also trying to gather information on the 10th Irish Division, and in particular on the fighting it did around Kosturino in early December and the subsequent retreat to Doiran.

I have tried to gather as many sources as possible about these events, starting of course with the detailed accounts provided in Falls' Official History, Palmer's The Gardeners of Salonika and Wakefield and Moody's Under the Devil's Eye. In addition, I have found some published histories of the battalions of the 10th Division:

- Record of the 5th (Service) Battalion. The Connaught Rangers from 19th August 1914 to 17th January 1916, by H. F. N. Jourdain ;

- The History of the Prince of Wale's Leinster Regiment (Royal Canadians), by Frederick Ernest Whitton ;

- A Short Record of the Services and Expériences of the 5th Battalion Royal Irish Fusiliers in the Great War.

Finally, I am aware of four published accounts of the Battle of Kosturino:

- Gun Fodder, The Diary of Four Years of War, A. Hamilton Gibbs ;

- The Boy with the Guns, George W. Taylor ;

- A Subaltern in Serbia and Some Letters from the Struma Valley, A. Donovan Young ;

- The First World War Diary of Noël Drury (recently published by the Army Records Society and which I have not yet had the opportunity to consult).

These texts already provide a lot of information, but I am still looking for more details about the events at Kosturino. Would you have any other books, diaries or sources to recommend to me?

 

Thanks in advance for your answers to my first post on the forum !

FV

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Welcome to the GWF. There is a bibliography of published books in English on the website of the Salonika Campaign Society that is free to download. I'm not aware of  other titles that relate specifically to Kosturino to add to your list, but you might wish to browse that. The A Hamilton Gibbs volume was not listed there and will be included in the third version  which we aim to release at the end of September.

The war diaries of the Salonika Campaign have not been digitised and can only be found at The National Archives although a few regimental museums have copies. If this thread, or your research finds titles not included in the bibliography we would be delighted to hear of them for inclusion in the future.

Keith

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Hi Keith,

Thank you for your reply, I'll go check that bibliography, I'm sure I'll find other useful books there. At the same time, I discover the existence of The New Mosquito, whose back issues seem to be full of interesting information about the 10th Division.

It is a pity that the War Diaries devoted to the Salonika front have not been digitised. I don't know if a digitisation campaign is planned in the future. And it does not seem that facsimile reprints are available...

FV

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Issue 27, April 2013 of the New Mosquito , Prisoner of the Bulgars , has an account of the action at Kosturino.  

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4 hours ago, Sgt Stripes said:

Issue 27, April 2013 of the New Mosquito , Prisoner of the Bulgars , has an account of the action at Kosturino.  

Thanks for this information, unfortunately it seems that this issue is no longer available.

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Check your personal messages.

Keith

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Wasn't there an autobiography of a Pte with the 32nd RAMC? Irish. 

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I'm aware of this book : 1914-1919 Memoirs of the 32nd Field Ambulance (Irish Division).    The author was a C Midwinter and it was published in 1933 by G E Foulger of Bexleyheath. I think that this was effectively privately published. It seems to be a very rare publication. There are copies in the Leeds University Library, and the Imperial War Mueum. It has apparently 75 pages.

There may be copies in a few other major libraries but it MIGHT have escaped the copyright libraries as there is no copy in the Bodleian. I would be delighted to get access, and might have to visit the IWM library despite the limited hours.

If anyone has become aware of other copies, or of any other related title I would be delighted to add the information to the SCS bibliography.

 

Keith

 

 
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Correcting the name of the author mentioned
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15 hours ago, keithmroberts said:

aware of other copies,

The Leeds copy is the only one showing in Worldcat; I tried the library service local to the place of publication, and there's not one there either.

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Hi jane,

 

Yes, I tried that and Jisc with no other joy. There has to be a chance that some other libraries not affliated to either have copies, but life is too short. Eventually I will get to read the IWM copy, unless I manage to fit in Leeds with one of my my increasingly infrequent returns to the West Riding.

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I had a copy and gave it to a charity shop! Argh!!

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I hope you're not within arm's reach of Keith! :P

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I don't feel well.

 

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Noooooo. Now I know how the guy who threw away a laptop with £150 million in bitcoin feels. :(

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Let's hope it went to a good home. I have almost come out of shock now.

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10 hours ago, KGB said:

Noooooo. Now I know how the guy who threw away a laptop with £150 million in bitcoin feels. :(

I suppose it's not still in the charity shop .... ?

 

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The only other thought that I can offer for Kosturino, is the original Mosquito, the complete run of which is published on DVD by the Salonika Campaign Society. There may be some original memories in that, but it would need searching carefully and from my occasional dips into it most of the members were based in England, whick might make relevant contributions less likely.

Atkinson's History of the Hampshires deals with Kosturino in only a few pages, and the slim "Battle Story of the Hampshire Regiment covers the involvement of two Hampshire battalions in the campaign in just over a single page, without mentioning Kosturino. I doubt if either is worth your time.

Keith

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On 07/08/2022 at 21:36, seaJane said:

I suppose it's not still in the charity shop .... ?

 

Well, the shop is in Greenwich and I am in Derry;)

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1 hour ago, KGB said:

Well, the shop is in Greenwich and I am in Derry;)

I think that ship has sailed.

 

These days it seems that it is the short print run items, often printed using local stationers and the like, that have almost vanished. There are quite a few items such listed in the the SCS bibliography that I have never seen, not even on ABE, ebay or the like. I have bought a couple over the years, but they can command very high prices from  professional dealers. I save a few titles up for an occasional visit to Oxford* and the Bodleian which can be less expensive than a single purchase, but when a limited run item never reached the copyright libraries life gets challenging.

Keith

 

* There's a campsite just outside Oxford which makes a few days visit quite affordable.

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20 hours ago, keithmroberts said:

The only other thought that I can offer for Kosturino, is the original Mosquito, the complete run of which is published on DVD by the Salonika Campaign Society. There may be some original memories in that, but it would need searching carefully and from my occasional dips into it most of the members were based in England, whick might make relevant contributions less likely.

Hi Keith,

 

Yes, there may be memories in the original Mosquito. After all, it seems that many of the reinforcements received by the 10th Division in October and November 1915 came from England rather than Ireland. Some of these newly landed soldiers may have left writings.

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On 10/08/2022 at 18:49, keithmroberts said:

I think that ship has sailed.

 

These days it seems that it is the short print run items, often printed using local stationers and the like, that have almost vanished. There are quite a few items such listed in the the SCS bibliography that I have never seen, not even on ABE, ebay or the like. I have bought a couple over the years, but they can command very high prices from  professional dealers. I save a few titles up for an occasional visit to Oxford* and the Bodleian which can be less expensive than a single purchase, but when a limited run item never reached the copyright libraries life gets challenging.

Keith

 

* There's a campsite just outside Oxford which makes a few days visit quite affordable.

I do have a First Edition of Masefield's "Gallipoli". 

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5 hours ago, KGB said:

I do have a First Edition of Masefield's "Gallipoli". 

Ditto - I think. Certainly an early printing!

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Not a Great War item, but I have a copy of his History of Brasenose College, also a first, and I'm not sure whether there was a later edition.

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