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Can anyone supply any information on these captured Naval guns IE what type or size of shell they fired. IMG_20220603_161352.jpg.2126efa949ed3f8158ea4417976ec7b1.jpg

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Mate,

I am unsure what types these are but British Intell records show the Ottomans had these types with the defences around Gaza March April 1917

March 1917

10th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 100mm)

254th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 150mm) -

shown 40th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (4Bty 49Bty 50Bty (11x 150mm how)

I would say these guns were lost in Oct - Nov 1917 not March Arpil 1917

British Intell on Ottoman guns is a bit sketchy in regard to the Artillery at Corps and Army level, they do show these last reports;

20th Ottoman Corps

shown July 1917 Allied reports 16th FAR (24 guns) 2xBns 60th FAR (German) (8x105mm How 4x150mm How) 28th AA Sect (6 guns) 102nd TMB 113th TMB (8xTM) 13th FAR (16 guns) 3rd Cav Div Bn (8 guns) + 6 guns) 

22nd Ottoman Corps

 shown Sept 1917 Allied reports (2x 100mm KUK How 10x 105mm How 8x 150mm How + 2x 77mm AA guns) - 2nd Heavy (Agir) Obüs/How Bty (2x 150mm guns) att 3 Div (22nd Corps) 8-16

Sorry its not much, hopefully some one with more can give you some idea?

Mate, I did some more checking and found this I wrote on the 3rd Gaza on Ottoman forces which may help with these guns?

The Gaza defences was held by the new 8th Army under the German von Kressenstein which arrived and replaced the 4th Army (which went back to commanding the garrison Corps in Syria and Palestine) 2nd Oct 1917.

The 7th Army under Gen Mustafa Kemal had its 3rd Corps holding Beersheba but the 15th Corps was still to arrive.

shown Oct 1917 Turkish reports 8th Army - Gaza Group 22nd Corps (3rd Div 7th Div 53rd Div) Sheria Group 20th Corps (26th Div 54th Div)

shown 7th Army - Bir saba Group 3rd Corps (27th Div 3rd Cav Div) + 16th Div and in reserve 24th Div

Bir saba Group 3rd Corps

27th Div
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 27th Div (3091 men) 81st Regt (900 men 18 Mgs) 48th Regt (16th Div) (900 men 24 Mgs) 67th Regt (43rd Div) (1400 men 12 Mgs) att 2nd Regt (24th Div) (740 men 12 Mgs)
shown Oct 1917 - 2Bn/43rd FAR (8xguns) 1Bn/13th FAR (8xguns) 2Bn/39th FAR (8xguns )

3rd Cav Div
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 3rd Cav Div 6th Cav Regt (500 men 8 MG's) 8th Cav Regt (500 men 8 MG's) + Bty 4 guns (7th Cav Regt T/det to Arabia) att 125th Regt (16th Div) 650 men? 12 MGs including 8x Lewis guns) -
shown Oct 1917 3rd Cav Div had 16 MG's (6th Cav Regt 8 MGs 8th Cav Regt 8 MGs) -
shown Turkish Oct 1917 reports 3rd Cav Div (1800 men 16 Mgs 4 guns)

16th Div
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 16th Div (5043 men) 72 Mgs (each Regt 24 Mgs) 47th Regt 48th Regt 125th Regt -
shown Oct 1917 + 248th MG Co and 48th Regt att 27th Div & 125th Regt att 3rd Cav Div)
shown Oct 1917- 2Bn/53rd FAR (8x 75mm QF guns) 4Bn/27th FAR (8x 87mm Mountain guns) 10Bty/14th FAR (4x 87mm mountain guns)

24th Div
shown Oct 1917 24th Div (3596 men) 58th Regt 143rd Regt with 2nd Regt (740 men or 460 men) T/att 27th Div

Gaza Group 22nd Corps 8th Army

3rd Div
shown Sept 1917 Allied reports 3rd Div (4159 men 53 Mgs 26 guns) -
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 3rd Div (4277 men 60 Mgs) (31st Regt (18 Mgs) 138th Regt (18 Mgs) 32nd Regt (24 Mgs)
shown Sept 1917 Allied reports (24x 75mm guns 2x75mm Mountian guns + 8x 9.5mm TMB)

7th Div
shown Sept 1917 Allied reports 7th Div (3643 men 53 MGs 25 guns) -
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 7th Div (3600 men 54 MG's) 20th Regt (18 MGs) 21st Regt (12 MGs) 134th Regt (24 MGs)
shown Sept 1917 Allied reports (17x 75mm guns & 8x 75mm Mantelli mountain guns + 8x 9.5mm TMB)

53rd Div
shown Sept 1917 Allied reports 53rd Div 79th Regt (1000 men 18 Mgs) 161st Regt (1300 men 18 Mgs) + 163rd Regt (1169 men 18 Mgs) -
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 53rd Div (4018 men 54 Mgs) (79th Regt (18 Mgs) 161st Regt (18 Mgs) 163rd Regt (18 Mgs)

Sheria Group 20th Corps

26th Div
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 26th Div (4115 men) 54xMG's) 59th Regt (18 Mgs) 76th Regt (18 Mgs) 78th Regt (18 Mgs)

54th Div
shown Oct 1917 54th Div (3541 men 54 Mgs) 19th Regt (18 Mgs) 164th Regt (18 Mgs) 165th Regt (18 Mgs)

These are the known Ottoman forces at 3rd Gaza, the fighting in Nov and the retreat to the counter attacks in Dec to follow.

Fighting on the Gaza line continued once Beersheba fell the first to arrive was the vetern 19th Div.

19th Div
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 19th Div (6500 men 18 Mg's + Div MG Co 230 men Div Cav Sqn 350 men Div transport 350 men Div Arty 1500 men (32x 75mm guns) att 4x100mm 4x150mm 2x240mm (KUK) + 136th Regt (43rd Div) (1650 men)
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 19th Div 72nd Regt (800 men) 77th Regt (600 men) detached 57th Regt (900 men) att 158th Regt (600 men) att 61st Regt (600 men)
shown Oct 1917 Allied reports 25th FAR (1500 men 4x100mm 4x150mm 20Bty KUK 2x240mm 32x 75mm guns) -
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report 1Bn/10th FAR 2Bn/25th FAR

12th Depot Regt
Also this unit which was the depot (training Regt at Jerusalem) 12th Infantry depot Regt
shown Oct- Nov 1917 Allied reports - 2xBn's (700 men) under Maj Meyer suport fighting around Beersheba

20th Div - arrived in Palestine for the Dec counter attacks
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 20th Div (3000 men 100 cav) 61st Regt 62nd Regt 63rd Regt later detached 62nd Regt (1200 men)
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports - (16x 77mm guns 4x 105mm How) -
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 1Bn/20th FAR 2Bn/20th FAR (16 guns) shown att 4th Light field Obüs Bty/41st FAR (4x 105mm How)

The Nov withdrawal and Dec fighting reduced the formations to these numbers;

7th Army under Gen Mustafa Fevzi Pasa (Çakmak)

shown Jan - Feb 1918 Allied reports (3rd Corps (1st Div & 24th Div) & 20th Corps (26th Div 53rd Div 48th Div) + 3rd Cav Div
Jan 1918 Allied reports 45th Heavy How Bn (1Bty 7Bty 10Bty 4x 105mm how 8x 150mm how) 11th Heavy Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries each with (4x 105 mm guns) 10-17 & 12th Heavy Obüs/How Bn -2x batteries each with (4x 105 mm guns) 10-17 att 2nd Heavy Obüs/How Bty (2x 15cm Krupp K16 field guns) 3-18

3rd Corps under Col Ismet Bey (Inönü)

shown Turkish Dec 1917 reports (19th Div 24th Div 3rd Cav Div) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (1st Div 24th Div 19th Div 3rd Cav Div)

20th Corps under Ali Fuat Pasa (Cebesoy)

shown Turkish Dec 1917 reports (26th Div 27th Div 53rd Div) -
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 26th Div (1160 men) 27th Div (4400 men) 53rd Div (3500 men) -
shown Jan 1918 (26th Div and 53rd Div attch 27th Div and 48th Div)

8th Army under Cevat Pasha (Cobanli)

shown Erickson Jan 1918 22nd Corps (3rd Div 7th Div 20th Div 16th Div 54th Div) + 2nd Cauc Cav Bde
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (16th Div 54th Div 2nd Cauc Cav Bde)

22nd Corps under Col Refet Bey (Bele)

shown Turkish Dec 1917 reports (7th Div 16th Div 20th Div 54th Div) -
shown Turkish Jan 1918 reports (3rd Div (2700 men) 7th Div (2000 men) 20th Div (3000 men) + 16th Div (1500 men) 54th Div (2700 men) 2nd Cauc Cav Bde (1500 cav) 5x Div cav Sqns (500 cav)

A closer look at these Divisions gives us this;

3rd Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 3rd Div - 31st Regt (1000 men) 138th Regt (1000 men) 161st Regt (1000 men) reports 32nd Regt to 53rd Div Nov 1917 -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (2700 men 44 Mgs 100 cav) 31st Regt (800 men 14 Mgs) 138th Regt (900 men 14 Mgs) 161st Regt (900 men 12 Mgs) 150 cav
shown Dec 1917 - 2Bn/5th FAR and 1Bn/6th FAR or 1Bn/5th FAR and 1Bn/16th FAR
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 4Bty/13th FAR 5Bty/5th FAR 4Bty/25th FAR

7th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 7th Div - 20th Regt 600 men) 134th Regt (500 men) 134th Regt replaced 19th Regt 1917/18 - 3/21st Regt to Hejez
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (2000 men 42xMGs 100 cav) 20th Regt (750 men 14xMGs) 21st Regt (14xMGs) 134th Regt (500 men 14xMGs) T/att 62nd Regt (900 men) 150 cav
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report 1Bn/14th FAR (75mm guns) 1Bn/13th FAR shown att Light field Obüs Bty/41st FAR 1Bn/54th FAR 1Bn/9th FAR 1Bn/6th FAR

16th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 16th Div - 47th Regt (750 men) 48th Regt (750 men) 125th Regt 750 men) - shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (1500 men 42 Mgs 100 cav) 47th Regt (750 men) 48th Regt (700 men) 125th Regt (750 men) 150 cav
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 1Bn/16th FAR (lost 1 gun) 2Bn/6th FAR (lost 6 guns) or 1Bn/16th FAR 2Bn/16th FAR 3Bn/16th FAR (less 1Bty with 3rd Div) shown att 4th Light field Obüs Bty/23rd FAR 5Bty/25th FAR 4Bty/6th FAR 2Bty/16th FAR 1Bty/47th FAR

19th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 19th Div - 72nd Regt (800 men) 77th Regt (600 men) detached 57th Regt (900 men) att 158th Regt (600 men) att 61st Regt (600 men) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (3800 men 56 Mgs 100 cav) 57th Regt (800 men 12 Mgs) 72nd Regt (500 men 12 Mgs) 77th Regt (1200 men 12 Mgs) att 158th Regt (700 men 16 Mgs) & 61st Regt (500 men) 150 cav
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report 1Bn/10th FAR 2Bn/25th FAR -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports 13th FAR (part)

20th Div
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports 20th Div (3000 men 54 Mgs) 61st Regt (18 Mgs) 62nd Regt (18xMGs) 63rd Regt (18 Mgs) - att 2xBn's 57th Regt (19th Div)
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports - (16x 77mm guns 4x 105mm How) -
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 1Bn/20th FAR 2Bn/20th FAR (16 guns) shown att 4th Light field Obüs Bty/41st FAR

24th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 24th Div - 2nd Regt (450 men) 58th Regt (400 men) 143rd Regt (500 men) &
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (1500 men 24 Mgs 100 cav) (2nd Regt (400 men 8 Mgs) 58th Regt (350 men 8 Mgs) 143rd Regt (450 men 8 Mgs) 150 cav

26th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 26th Div (4400 men) and 76th Regt 600 men) 78th Regt (600 men) 1Bn/59th Rget (400 men) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (possibly 2000 men 42 Mgs) 67th Regt (750 men) 81st Regt (1250 men) 150 cav also shown (59th Regt (1000 men 9 Mgs or 12 Mgs) 76th Regt (15 Mgs) 78th Regt (1000 men 9 Mgs or 15 Mgs) + Cav Sqn (100 cav)

27th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 27th Div (1160 men) 81st Regt (1400 men) 4/80th Regt 67th Regt (43rd Div) (800 men) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (900 men 24 Mgs + 100 Cav) 67th Regt (12 Mgs) 81st Regt (12 Mgs) -

possibly 27th Div disbanded around Jan 1918

53rd Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 53rd Div (3500 men) 161st Regt disbanded Nov - Dec 1917 after retreat from Beersheba 32nd Regt (250 men) 136th Regt (1500 men) 163rd Regt (700 men) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (2000 men 54 Mgs 50 Cav) or 32nd Regt (200 men 15 Mgs) 136th Regt (700 men 15 Mgs) 163rd Regt (600 men 18 Mgs) 150 cav
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 2Bn/1st FAR (lost 2x guns) 2Bn/2nd FAR

54th Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 19th Regt (1200 men) 164th Regt (500 men) 165th Regt (600 men) 2xBns/59th Regt (800 men)
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports (2700 men 36 Mgs 100 cav) 19th Regt (1200 men 12 Mgs) 164th Regt (500 men 12 Mgs) Bn/165th Regt (300 men 12 Mgs) att 59th Regt (800 men) 150 cav
shown Turkish Dec 1917 report - 2Bn/50th FAR (reported lost all guns) 2Bn/13th FAR (lost 1 gun) shown att 5th Light field Obüs Bty/23rd FAR 4Bty/1st FAR 2Bn/2nd FAR 4Bty/14th FAR

54th Div disbanded around March 1918

3rd Cav Div
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports 3rd Cav Div (1350 cav 24 Mgs) with 7th Cav Regt (650 cav 8xMGs) still in Hejaz

Arrived around Dec 1917 and Jan 1918

1st Div
shown Dec 1917 Allied reports 1st Div - 70th Regt (1500 men) 71st Regt (1500 men) -
shown Jan 1918 Allied reports 1st Div (2800 men 36 Mgs 100 cav) 70th Regt (850 men) 71st Regt (800 men) 124th Regt (1000 men) 150 cav

Hope its of some help

S.B

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Here's an alternative rear view angle of identical (if not the same) to aid identification.  This one is recorded as captured at Gaza (AWM J009526).  To me it looks like a variation of a QF 4.7" Naval Gun but I'll happily stand corrected on that.

AWM J009526.jpg

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Thank you for your replies. This all helps. 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Could it be the c73 12cm L24 Field Gun shown on this earlier thread?

 

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Mate,

I surpose we how have to find what Battery these guns were in.

All Allied reports before 3rd Gaza, I saw, show no 4.7" guns or I am missing them some where?

100, 105 and 150mm guns are shown at Army level 

As all Heavy or Agir Artillery are at this or Corps level then find these guns is harder to find.

I did a check and the British show only these guns but on the Mesopotania Front

(12th Corps)

12th Heavy (Agir) Obüs/How Bn (2x 4.7mm guns)

So they appear to be on all fronts not just Gaza/Palestine

S.B

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16 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

All Allied reports before 3rd Gaza, I saw, show no 4.7" guns or I am missing them some where?

Steve,

There's an account here of the 1/5 Bedfords and a Turkish 4.7 naval gun captured at Gaza; see http://www.worldwar1luton.com/object/gun-trophy-15th-bedfords and note the remarks of Col. Clutton and of  Lt.Col Brighten

There are some good photographs at the foot of the above linked to page

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Mate,

yes these guns appear all over.

Accounts show all types of units were capturing them

Those and also aussie

10th ALHR 8 Nov 1917

After this fighting the Sqn and Regt pushed on to Huj, where they came into action over running some guns ( two 5.9" how) around noon and a number more later in the day (two 4.7" how).

So how many did we capture at 3rd Gaza or soon after and what units did capture those guns?

Like I said Allied intell reports don't show any of these guns at 3rd Gaza, only those I show (100mm 105mm or 150mm)

So we were IDing them by that before

S.B

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That the Ottoman Turks were using ex-Naval guns as part of their artillery strength in defence of Gaza in October/November 1917 can be seen here:- https://archive.org/details/briefrecordofadv00grearich/page/n131/mode/2up

“...the following telegram, despatched on Oct.24 to Yilderim Army Group Headquarters by Major von Papen …. Liaison officer between the armies and the group,...

Reconnaissance undertaken today along the coastal sector shows that sufficient positions for local defence are in existence near Askalon and Wadi Hesy. Disembarkation, which might be tactically possible could not, from the nature of the country, take place north of Wadi Hesy. Employment of naval guns and a few machine-guns seems desirable for local defence.

For further information as to exactly where the Bedfords captured their particular example, perhaps our member Steve Fuller can offer advice?

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Mate,

The details that they were 120mm or 12cm guns makes check a bit easier.

This is a list of known Agir units with the Ottoman Army in Palestine during the war and are shown on Allied Intell reports

Before March 1917

10th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 100mm)

March 1917

10th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 100mm)

254th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 150mm) -

shown 40th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (4Bty 49Bty 50Bty (11x 150mm how) - &

4th Army report

shown 1st Gaza March 1917 10th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 100mm) 254th Heavy (Agir) How (2x 150mm) 1Bn/6th FAR (8x Schneider 75mm M 1907) -

shown June 1917 Allied reports - 6x Bty's Turkish Heavy (Agir) How Regt (12 to 16 - 150mm How & 120mm Naval Guns) -

shown July 1917 Allied reports - (12x 150mm How & 120mm Naval Guns) 101st TMB 103rd TMB (12x TM's) 8th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 150mm How) 142nd AA sect (6x guns) - 

****** While these guns (120mm Naval Guns) are shown there units are not, and would have still been there in Oct 1917, when we are discussing (they could possibly be from the 40th Agir How Bn, shown possibly arrived during this period, while its shown with 150mm guns, its unknown if they would had both types?

By 1918 the 40th Agir How Bn had now disappeared, was most of it lost during the retreat in late 1917 or was it sent to another front, as it is shown returned to Palestine from the Caucasus Front (3rd Army) in Sept 1918?

During 1918 a lot more arrived with Ottoman troops strength falling.

These Agir units are shown during 1918

shown Jan 1918 Allied reports

2nd Heavy (Agir) How Bty (3x 150mm How)

3rd Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 150mm)

7th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 150mm)

8th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 150mm How)

10th Heavy (Agir) How bty (4x150mm guns)

30th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 150mm how)

31st Heavy (Agir) How Bn

37th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (3x 150mm How)

41st Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 105mm)

44th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x105mm)

45th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (1Bty 7Bty 10Bty (8x 150mm 4x 105mm)

47th Heavy (Agir) How Bty

4Bty/51st How Bn (4x 105mm)

61st Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 120mm How)

63rd Heavy (Agir) How Bn (263rd How Bty (4x 105mm How)

72nd Heavy (Agir) How Bn (11Bty 256Bty or 11Bty 12Bty or 5Bty 12Bty 13Bty (4x150mm & 2x105mm)

73rd Heavy (Agir) How Bn (12Bty 13Bty or 13Bty 14Bty (8x 150mm)

74th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (14Bty 15Bty or 15Bty 257Bty or 256Bty 257Bty (8x 150mm)

75th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 150mm how)

140th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (1x 150mm how)

80th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (3Bty 15Bty (5x 150mm How)

268th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (2x 105mm How)

209th Heavy (Agir) How Bty

229th Heavy (Agir) How Bty July (4x 120mm How) Sept (2x 105mm how)

230th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 105mm)

257th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 150mm) 

259th Heavy (Agir) How Bty (4x 120mm) 

Sept 1918 Allied reports reinforcements

40th Heavy (Agir) How Bn (4Bty (4x 150mm How) 29Bty (not sent to Palestine) 49Bty (3x old 150mm How) 50Bty (3x old 150mm How) from 3rd Army Caucasus Sept 1918 -

S.B

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Mates,

These were given on another site of guns sent to Turkey

Tulloch shown these as possibly 1873 Krupp L24 (which makes sence.)

 

I was able to made a more complete (and hope more correct) list of the guns bought by the Turkish Army from 1861 to 1914.
1861 : 1 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1863 : 48 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1864
48 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
12 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1867 : 48 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1868 : 127 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
1870
78 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
10 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1871
8 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
170 - 9cm 9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1873
214 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
120 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
120 - 12cm Krupp RK L/24
50 - 15cm Krupp RK L/14
230 - 15cm Krupp RK L/26
28 - 21cm Krupp RK L/22
50 - 24cm Krupp RK L/22
10 - 26cm Krupp RK L/22
12 - 28cm Krupp RK L/21
1874
178 - 8cm (7,85cm L/25) Krupp FK
1 - 8cm (7,5cm L/27) Krupp FK C/73
52 - 9cm (9,15cm L/22) Krupp FK
1875
100 - 7,5cm L/27 Krupp FK C/73
100 - 8,7cm L/24 Krupp FK C/73
1 - 35,5cm L/22 Krupp K
1885
39 - 7,5cm L/27 Krupp FK C/80
389 - 8,7cm L/24 Krupp FK C/80
20 - 12cm L/6,3 Krupp Ms
20 - 15cm L/6,4 Krupp Ms
20 - 21cm L/6,4 Krupp Ms
22 - 24cm L/35 Krupp K C/80
7 - 35,5cm L/35 Krupp K C/80
1886
20 - 7,5cm L/27 Krupp FK C/80
404 - 8,7cm L/24 Krupp FK C/80
2 - 10,7cm L/20 Krupp sFK
10 - 24cm L/35 Krupp K C/80
4 - 37cm L/35 Krupp SK
1893
6 - 7,5cm L/13 Krupp GbK
72 - 12cm L/11,6 Krupp FHb
1896
2 - 3,7cm L/20 Krupp Revolver-K
2 - 15cm L/40 Krupp SK
1897 : 12 - 10,5cm L/35 Krupp FstK C/80 [war trophies, taken during the War against Greece]
1898 : 1 - 7,5cm Krupp L/30
1901
1 field gun, 1 mountain gun, and 1 - 10,5cm light howitzer were ordered to the French firm St.Chamond for experiences, but the order was not accepted because it was judged "insignificant"
1902
6 - 5,7cm L/40 Krupp SK
7 - 12cm L/40 SK Krupp C/00
15 - 15cm L/40 Krupp SK
4 - 21cm L/40 SK Krupp C/00
1903
2 - 7,5cm L/6,4 Krupp GbMs
96 - 7,5cm L/30 Krupp FK C/03
1904
10 - 3,7cm L/20 Krupp Revolver-K
6 - 4,7cm L/40 Krupp SK C/97
30 - 5,7cm L/40 Krupp SK
8 - 7,5cm L/14 Krupp GbK
18 - 7,5cm L/40 Krupp SK C/97
5 - 10,5cm L/40 Krupp SK
1905
12 - 3,7cm L/20 Krupp Revolver-K
12 - 5,7cm L/40 Krupp SK
462 - 7,5cm L/30 Krupp FK C/03
138 - 7,5cm L/14 Krupp GbK
18 - 10,5cm L/30 Krupp Belagerungs-K
18 - 15cm L/14 Krupp Hb
1906 : 4 - 3,7cm L/20 Krupp Revolver-K
1907 : 4 - 3,7cm L/20 Krupp Revolver-K
1908 : 108 - 7,5cm L/16,7 Schneider-Canet GbK MD2 T
1910
8 - 5,7cm L/40 Krupp SK
90 - 7,5cm L/30 Krupp FK C/09
4 - 7,5cm L/16 Rheinmetall GbK M. 1910 (trial guns)
8 - 7,5cm L/50 Krupp SK
1911
88 - 7,5cm L/30 Krupp FK C/11
2 - 10cm L/12 Krupp GbH zarlegbare (two trial guns of different model)
19121 - 7,5cm L/28 Krupp BaK
1 - 7,5cm L/30 Krupp BaK
52 - 7,5cm L/31,4 Schneider-Canet FK PD 2 [Serbian guns seized in 1912 at Salonika]
4 - 15cm L/14 H
1913
18 - 10,5cm L/12 Krupp Hb
36 - 15cm L/10,5cm Krupp sFHb
1914
54 - 7,5cm L/30 FK
12 - 10.5 cm L/18 Skoda FHb M.14 T

According with GENELKURMAY HARP TARİHİ BAŞKANLIĞI : Türk Silahli Kuvvetleri Tarihi III Cilt, 6 Kisim (1908-1920), Ankara : Basimevi 1971, p. 444, in late the Turkish Arsenal (Tophane) manufactured :
450 - 7,5cm L/13 GbK
130 - 8,7cm L/24 FK
100 - 12cm L/11,6 FHb
20 - 15cm L/14 Hb
12 - 7,5cm L/30 FK
16 - 7,5cm L/14 GbK

They were all replicas of Krupp guns. I think the number is too hight expecially for QF guns/howitzers, since Jonathan GRANT, “The Sword of the Sultan: Ottoman Arms Imports, 1854-1914”, The Journal of Military History, Vol. 66, No. 1. (Jan., 2002), pp. 25-26 says that : "In the years 1902 and 1903 the Turks attempted to manufacture six quick-fire field guns on the Krupp model presented by the Kaiser [1898], but Tophane’s production proceeded rather slowly owing to want of funds”.
According with Das Militärwesen in seiner Entiwickelung während der 25 Jahre 1874 – 1898 als Jubiläumsband der v. Löbell’schen Jahresberichte. Berlin: Ernst Siegfried Mittler und Sohn 1890, Erster Theil, p. the Arsenal manufactured 96 – 7cm GbK system Krupp, but it supposed that 200 more mountain guns had been manufactured.
According with the Bulgarian official history of the Balkan War I, p. 262 the Arsenal manufactured, besides the mountain guns, only 69 - 12cm L/11.6 howitzers (instead of 100).

 

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S.B

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Superb information. Many thanks for all replies.  

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Mate,

Another answer show these guns as possibly 12 cm Kanone M80 

These appear common in the German and Austrian forces during the war

from Wikiwand

The 12 cm Kanone M 80 was a light siege gun used by Austria-Hungary during World War I. Designed to replace the M 61 series of siege guns the M 80 family of siege guns offered greater range and armor penetration than the older guns. The proven steel-bronze was used for the barrel and the iron carriage lacked any system to absorb recoil other than the traditional recoil wedges placed underneath and behind the wheels of the carriage. These wedges helped to absorb the recoil force and encouraged the wheels to run forward to bring the gun back into battery. Generally a wooden firing platform was constructed for these guns in action to provide a level and smooth surface. Shortly after these guns were adopted a hydraulic recoil cylinder was adapted to absorb the recoil forces. It was attached to the underside of the carriage and the firing platform. For transport the barrel was removed from the carriage by a crane and carried separately.

While designed to penetrate the walls of fortifications the 12 cm siege gun was no longer useful against modern armored fortresses by the outbreak of World War I and its combination of long-range and light weight saw many in the field to fill the need for long-range artillery.

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6 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Another answer show these guns as possibly 12 cm Kanone M80 

Barrel seems a bit stubbier on the 12cm Kanone M80 Steven?

 

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Mate,

Yes I agree, the carriage looks about right.

I think your first answer was the best or closest so far 1873 12cm Krupp L24 

I did notice another on the net shown as Bulgarian Artillary Krupp 120mm 1892

S.B

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