17736 John George Tate

[Pte2030RichardEvans]

My Great Grandfather Pte 17736 John George Tate is mentioned in this thread, I am interested to know more about him, I have been informed he was wounded at some point, he served 1914-1920 some of the latter was in Ireland. He survived the war but was killed in 1943 when the roof collapsed on him when working in Shotton Colliery as a Timber Drawer down the pit, his daughter (my aunt) is still alive at the age of 102.

Regards James 

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I've split this in to a new thread so it doesn't get missed.

Tate is mentioned in this thread -

Craig

36 minutes ago, Pte2030RichardEvans said:

My Great Grandfather Pte 17736 John George Tate is mentioned in this thread, I am interested to know more about him, I have been informed he was wounded at some point, he served 1914-1920 some of the latter was in Ireland. He survived the war but was killed in 1943 when the roof collapsed on him when working in Shotton Colliery as a Timber Drawer down the pit, his daughter (my aunt) is still alive at the age of 102.

Regards James 

If you have access to FindmyPast or Ancestry he has a sizeable surviving service record.

Craig

[Pte2030RichardEvans]

Thank you Craig I will look into his service record on Ancestry and see what information I can dig up kind regards James 

[Matlock1418]

14 hours ago, Pte2030RichardEvans said:

My Great Grandfather Pte 17736 John George Tate is mentioned in this thread, I am interested to know more about him, I have been informed he was wounded at some point, he served 1914-1920 some of the latter was in Ireland.

Pte. John G. TATE, 17736, Yorkhire Regiment

As usual there is a MIC with his medal entitlement = Theatre of war (2B) Balkans, 8-9-15 [Gallipoli] = 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal

There should also be an associated Medal Roll - may offer a bit more info.

The MIC also shows he was transferred to the Class Z Army Reserve before he was finally demobilised [typically this automatically happened when the ZR was disbanded in 1920]

A search of WFA/Fold3 does not show any pension card(s) so, at or after his transfer to the Z Reserve, rather looks like he did not claim a disabilty pension [i.e. from this resource at least].  And I could not see any retained [rare] pension file at TNA either.

M

[Pte2030RichardEvans]

Thank you very much for this additional information, it is really refreshing to see that there is so much information coming out of his service records and it is proving to be a very interesting record of service too, I do have a photo of him in his service uniform at my mother's which I will post on here and you may find it interesting that his daughter is still alive at 102 years young "also a veteran from WW2" 

Regards James 

[Allan1892]

2 hours ago, Matlock1418 said:

There should also be an associated Medal Roll - may offer a bit more info.

No additional info on 1914/15 Star rolls. The rolls for the BWM and VM shows that he was in the 6 Btn and then the 2 Btn (images courtesy of Ancestry)

[Matlock1418]

1 hour ago, Allan1892 said:

No additional info on 1914/15 Star rolls.

Gives a transfer to Reserve Class Z, 10-1-19 [though I suspect there is more detail in his Service Record]

All handy snippets - thanks for looking/posting

M

[Dominion]

Hi James,

I have some additional information on John George Tate that may be of interest. His name appears in a pocket book owned by Cpl. Leonard Yates (18838) 6th Bn Yorks. being part of the "Bombers 5 Section" - I have a thread on it from a few years back you can find here: 

He is referenced as follows:

17736 - Pte. - Tate J - Cook - C.E.

I believe from his records he was injured at least twice - GSW chest 29th September 1917 and GSW left knee 30th September 1918.