AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 Hello i wanted to see if anyone could provide any information as to the age/ time period of use for this Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 (edited) It’s a very fine looking badge (a firm striking) and I certainly think it’s genuine and not a modern copy. The badge design stayed constant for both world wars though so there isn’t really anything to date it. Edited 29 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2022 Thank you for the reply, Frogsmile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AEF1918 said: Thank you for the reply, Frogsmile Glad to help. Notice that there was a variant with voiding behind the cat from 1908 onward, which fits with your badge. Edited 29 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2022 21 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Glad to help. Notice that there was a variant with voiding behind the cat from 1908 onward, which fits with your badge. Thanks for the reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, AEF1918 said: Thanks for the reference! I’m glad to help. Here is the badge in use during WW1. Two types of headdress, the glengarry cap with its unique three rows of white dicing (other Scottish regiments two) and the ‘drab’ (meaning brownish shade) khaki Tam-o-Shanter bonnet issued as fairly ubiquitous Scottish field dress from 1916 onward. Edited 29 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2022 57 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: I’m glad to help. Here is the badge in use during WW1. Two types of headdress, the glengarry cap with its unique three rows of white dicing (other Scottish regiments two) and the ‘drab’ (meaning brownish shade) khaki Tam-o-Shanter bonnet issued as fairly ubiquitous Scottish field dress from 1916 onward. Great photos! I appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2022 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: I’m glad to help. Here is the badge in use during WW1. Two types of headdress, the glengarry cap with its unique three rows of white dicing (other Scottish regiments two) and the ‘drab’ (meaning brownish shade) khaki Tam-o-Shanter bonnet issued as fairly ubiquitous Scottish field dress from 1916 onward. Was the glengarry still issued for dress and replaced as a field cap with the Tam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 good evening, here is this cap badge that I found to Loos : regards michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 29 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2022 2 minutes ago, battle of loos said: good evening, here is this cap badge that I found to Loos : regards michel That is outstanding. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, AEF1918 said: Was the glengarry still issued for dress and replaced as a field cap with the Tam? Yes, it was the principal cap used by A&SH initially, as per the photos above, but it wasn’t very practical in trenches and men tended to use “cap comforters” (knitted wool) worn like beanies, or balaclavas rolled up and worn in a similar manner. Glengarries were still worn when out on rest / reserve, but after 1916 the ToS became fairly ubiquitous, alongside the Brodie steel helmet. Edited 29 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 29 April , 2022 Share Posted 29 April , 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, battle of loos said: good evening, here is this cap badge that I found to Loos : regards michel Fantastic Michel! The A&SH fought through the battle in glengarries and your badge looks like it was pierced with fragmentation. It’s very evocative. Edited 29 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon92 Posted 30 April , 2022 Share Posted 30 April , 2022 It is believed by some, including John Gaylor in his book on Military Badge Collecting, that the "tail up" or "tail down" on the cat is a dating detail. Earlier badges had tail up with the changeover occurring around 1908. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 30 April , 2022 Share Posted 30 April , 2022 (edited) So a badge from the time of the 2nd Anglo/Boer War 1899-1902 might have his tail up, in addition to voiding on just the one side. As your badge is sat very firmly on his tail AEF1918, you can rest in the assurance that your badge dates from after 1908, and thus as mentioned earlier it’s not possible to determine which world war (or between) that it might have been used in. Good luck with your collecting it can become quite addictive. Edited 30 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 30 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2022 6 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: So a badge from the time of the 2nd Anglo/Boer War 1899-1902 might have his tail up, in addition to voiding on just the one side. As your badge is sat very firmly on his tail AEF1918, you can rest in the assurance that your badge dates from after 1908, and thus as mentioned earlier it’s not possible to determine which world war (or between) that it might have been used in. Good luck with your collecting it can become quite addictive. Thank you! I have a few more badges I just acquired that I will be posting soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 30 April , 2022 Share Posted 30 April , 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AEF1918 said: Thank you! I have a few more badges I just acquired that I will be posting soon. If you have, or are developing a strong interest in badges, I would suggest that you join this forum too: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/index.php Edited 30 April , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEF1918 Posted 30 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2022 5 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: If you have, or are developing a strong interest in badges, I would suggest that you join this forum too: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/index.php Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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