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Cut down German WW1 bayonet


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A good friend of mine showed me this cut down bayonet,

would I be correct in thinking it's probably a cut down butchers bayonet?,

it is marked 15 on the spine which i presume is 1915, could be wrong though. 

Thanks,

Jim

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Yes it could be so a S98/05 converted to knife postwar,the scabbard is for other modell with added remains of frog.

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Thanks I did wonder why and when it was converted,

 

Looks a tidy job, whoever did it 

  

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Hello.

scan from the book, by Frederick J. Stephens "Kampfmesser"

 

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Yes there exist samples which are declared "vemutlich" so probably but not confirmed they are period and origin made, it could be made only by damaged items as shortening of combat item, normall service bayonets were forbidden to rework for similar design in war. there were enough private combat knives to buy commerzially by soldiers which are confirmed on real period pictures. Remains a question postwar could be done by anyone similar shortages.

The first piece is mostly Erfurt 1915 production, the blade was narowed and reduced bright, question  remains how was reworked scabbard as this looks thinner as S98/05 scabbard, same as we should see how is attached the frog on body of scabbard.

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Thanks Bert F, it's quite like no.86 on the photographs,

wonder how it came to be shortened, certainly plenty of potential reasons,

AndyBsk, I wasn't aware that service bayonets were not allowed to be reworked, but it makes sense.

So I'm guessing an individual probably re-worked the example I saw some time after WW1 

 

 

 

 

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an examples of a modification of the bayonet S 98/05, for a trench knife, homemade weapons,

years WWI.

scan from the book "Deutsche Kampfmesser", by Eugen Von Halasz

 

 

 

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From damaged or rejected bayonets could be similar pieces realised, offcoarse remains a question it was done in WW1 or post. Hard to confirm here. Should be provide more pictures of presented piece, to destine what for scabbard and frog are there? 

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BertF, Looks very informative, even though I can't read the German text, size measurements are useful. Could easily be home made then,

AndyBsk I guess it is difficult to establish when it was made, and by whom,

I will take some more photo's of it next time I visit.  

All the best,

Jim

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