davidbohl Posted 14 March , 2022 Share Posted 14 March , 2022 This is Sgt James Lowe #22462 kia with 17/KLR attached 89/TMB What is his chest ribbon please ? (MiD awarded 7/11/1917) Also what is his mate wearing on his sleeve ? many thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 March , 2022 Share Posted 14 March , 2022 Could be a BWM - British War medal. Does not have the vertical striping of an MM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 14 March , 2022 Share Posted 14 March , 2022 Corporal rank stripes on his sleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 March , 2022 Share Posted 14 March , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, davidbohl said: This is Sgt James Lowe #22462 kia with 17/KLR attached 89/TMB What is his chest ribbon please ? (MiD awarded 7/11/1917) Also what is his mate wearing on his sleeve ? many thanks Dave The man next to him appears to be Army Ordnance Corps going by his shoulder title. The arm badge is intriguing and appears to be a formation patch of some kind. It’s not entirely clear if it’s metal, or cloth, either. Are you able to procure and post a better copy of the image, ideally showing both men? Edited 14 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 14 March , 2022 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2022 2 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: a better copy this is the best I've got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 14 March , 2022 Share Posted 14 March , 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, davidbohl said: this is the best I've got Thank you David. It looks to me from the medal ribbons that it’s a photo taken 1918-19, probably in the Rhine Area occupation zone. The soldier on the left has I think the new RAOC title after that corps was granted its Royal prefix. The badge on his upper arm is unfamiliar to me but it’s position on the left upper arm suggests a formation badge of some kind. Perhaps SME @poona guardmight recognise it? Edited 14 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 14 March , 2022 Author Share Posted 14 March , 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: it’s a photo taken 1918-19 Thanks Frogsmile, a family tree has the portrait photo of the man on the right attached to Sgt Lowe, he was kia 30/4/1918 in Dickebusch, so does it look like a mistaken identity ? Service records for him:- 25th Aug 1916 - appointed L/Sgt 11th Jul 1917 - promoted Sgt Edited 14 March , 2022 by davidbohl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, davidbohl said: Thanks Frogsmile, a family tree has the portrait photo of the man on the right attached to Sgt Lowe, he was kia 30/4/1918 in Dickebusch, so does it look like a mistaken identity ? Service records for him:- 25th Aug 1916 - appointed L/Sgt 11th Jul 1917 - promoted Sgt I’m not sure David, it depends on the positive identification of the shoulder title and medal ribbons of the man on the left. They look to me like they include a 14, or 14-15 Star, but the picture has insufficient resolution/clarity to be sure. If it’s just a row of other medals from extensive prewar service then your KIA information could be correct. Without a better photo we’re at an impasse. Edited 15 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 15 March , 2022 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2022 17 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Without a better photo we’re at an impasse. I agree Frogsmile, The original photo gives a few more shades on the ribbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, davidbohl said: I agree Frogsmile, The original photo gives a few more shades on the ribbons Unfortunately the oblique view does not do us any favours, as it distorts the appearance of the vertical striping. To get any clarity for a row rather than a single ribbon the angle of view really needs to be square on. There are some forum members who pride themselves on ribbon identification, let’s see what they say. Edited 15 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 I think that the medal far right in the row might be the same as the single ribbon on the right hand man. The upper arm badge looks as if it might be a brass letter set upon a cloth shield. All-in-all a frustrating image given the lack of clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 The soldier on the left - his 3 ribbons appear to me to be the 1914 or 1914-15 star, BWM & VM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RNCVR said: The soldier on the left - his 3 ribbons appear to me to be the 1914 or 1914-15 star, BWM & VM. Thank you Bryan that’s very helpful and if someone else can corroborate my identification of the shoulder title as RAOC, then it seems that a 1918-19 timeframe can be confirmed. Edited 15 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 I agree with you that the photo is very poor & difficult to interpret with any degree of accuracy but appears best we are going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 15 March , 2022 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2022 Since Sgt Lowe died 30th April 1918 he couldn't be standing next to a guy with the B & V medals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 15 March , 2022 Share Posted 15 March , 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, davidbohl said: Since Sgt Lowe died 30th April 1918 he couldn't be standing next to a guy with the B & V medals ? Yes understood, so as you mentioned earlier, it must presumably be a different man. Either that or the other medals are some other combination. Also the shoulder title became RAOC at the very end of 1918. Edited 15 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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