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Francis Henry Jones 2 Suffolk 19055 kia identifying his residence (Yorkshire)?


wulsten

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20 hours ago, wulsten said:

I have a medal to him hoping to gain information about his background before a visit this year, killed at Sanctuary wood

Is it possible to post photos of it please?

George

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On 24/02/2022 at 08:31, wulsten said:

He enlisted in Preston, he must have resided in Yorkshire ?

Sorry can't see where this record comes from? Help please?

George

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13 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Can anybody find this record? either in Ancestry or FMP? I'm sure I've seen it but this morning...

George

George, he volunteered for cavalry 3rd September 1914, 11th reserve cavalry at tidsworth, then transferred to 3rd Suffolk reserve, then 2nd Suffolk, however nothing to clarify a genealogy link etc

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I believe this is Ethel's father...also 2nd Suffolks

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George

1 minute ago, wulsten said:

he volunteered for cavalry 3rd September 1914, 11th reserve cavalry at tidsworth

Where is this from please?

George

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Thanks Allan I had seen that but was trying to find the original this FMP record is transcribed from. Is it anywhere...

George

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1 hour ago, George Rayner said:

Thanks Allan I had seen that but was trying to find the original this FMP record is transcribed from. Is it anywhere...

George

Hi George,

Yesterday, I spent a fair bit of time trying to find the original source material for the SDGW entry but I haven't been successful.

Allan

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I'll curtail my search then! Thanks

George

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7 hours ago, George Rayner said:

I believe this is Ethel's father...also 2nd Suffolks

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George

Where is this from please?

George

George, Nigel Marshall passed the information to me, I believe the information is a result from checking regimental numbers re tideworth, thanks for mic re Ethel's father, it certainly thickens the plot being sldo Suffolk's

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Just wish I could track the Hussars attestation!

George

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58 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Just wish I could track the Hussars attestation!

I think that he has to be using an alias (or possible is an orphan). There are a lot of clues there, and we cannot get him. Plus the fact that there are no parents or nok on CWGC

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2 hours ago, corisande said:

I think that he has to be using an alias (or possible is an orphan). There are a lot of clues there, and we cannot get him. Plus the fact that there are no parents or nok on CWGC

I think you maybe correct, the information available just doesn't add up and the possible mic to Ethel Garner father enlisting in the Suffolk's, its so frustrating not to tie together

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3 hours ago, George Rayner said:

Just wish I could track the Hussars attestation!

George

Hello George,
I tracked it by looking at service numbers around the 20053 Hussars number, and plotting the early service histories of the men whose records have survived, looking for patterns of movements from unit to unit. 
Pte Jones was in a batch of men who enlisted on 3rd September 1914, and went to 11th Reserve Cavalry Regiment at Tidworth.
A batch of men were transferred from across the Reserve Cavalry Regiments to 3rd Suffolks on 2nd June 1915, that being the Reserve Battalion for the Regiment, and those men were distributed among Suffolk Regt Battalions which needed men.
Pte Jones went to 2nd Bn.

Cheers,

Nigel

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On 25/02/2022 at 08:37, George Rayner said:

Can anybody find this record? either in Ancestry or FMP? I'm sure I've seen it but this morning...

George

George this is his will, I've just noticed he has written," in the presence of my family "

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6 minutes ago, wulsten said:

," in the presence of my family "

I think that refers to the family of the man' who wrote the letter, not to Jones' family

The writer lived on Loftus, and presumably that was where the will was signed

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Thanks to all for those helpful pieces.

Don't suppose it's possible to have a better image of the will is it?

And it seems like I imagined seeing his attestation into the Hussars!

George

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9 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Thanks to all for those helpful pieces.

Don't suppose it's possible to have a better image of the will is it?

And it seems like I imagined seeing his attestation into the Hussars!

George

George, is this better, they are not brilliant when downloaded

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Thanks Wulsten

If it's online and available I'll look myself as well. Do you have a URL you could share? If not don't worry

George

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I also note on the 1911 census a boarder in the household name not clear, and Ethel born away from loftus, sorry about quality of image

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2 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Thanks Wulsten

If it's online and available I'll look myself as well. Do you have a URL you could share? If not don't worry

George

That were on the .gov soldiers wills site (probate) you could fowload last year for £1.50 now sadly risen to £10.00 a download ridiculous

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I may hold back from that then!

George

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The first one, dated 1911 is just a poem

The 1916 one is

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And the father is courtesy Fold3

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26th February 1901

George

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Also WW1 Suffolk Regiment 19004

George

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