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Frev,

Another as mentioned by TE888, but only her married name.

ANDERSON    William Thomas    926    Pte    02 LHR    5R att rear Dtls 7-15 Tos RHQ? 10-15 (G) to hosp (measles) 1-16 to 1 LHTR 3-16 to ACo/4 Pnr Bn 4-16 to hosp (VD) 12-16 to 4 ADBD Etaples 2-17  to hosp (synovitis) 3-17 rtn 4 Pnr Bn 3-17 F&B KIA 8-7-18 reported 2 killed and 4 wounded by shell digging defences near Hamel buried Villers Bretonneux Cemetery France married Gladys in UK 

She is shown as

Mrs Gladys Anderson

426 Essex Rd

Islington

London

There appears no other details on Marrage

His will change in Jan 1918 after leave in the UK around Sept 1917

So possibly married around Sept-Oct 1917

For your interest

S.B

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2 hours ago, stevebecker said:

Frev,

Another as mentioned by TE888, but only her married name.

ANDERSON    William Thomas    926    Pte    02 LHR    5R att rear Dtls 7-15 Tos RHQ? 10-15 (G) to hosp (measles) 1-16 to 1 LHTR 3-16 to ACo/4 Pnr Bn 4-16 to hosp (VD) 12-16 to 4 ADBD Etaples 2-17  to hosp (synovitis) 3-17 rtn 4 Pnr Bn 3-17 F&B KIA 8-7-18 reported 2 killed and 4 wounded by shell digging defences near Hamel buried Villers Bretonneux Cemetery France married Gladys in UK 

She is shown as

Mrs Gladys Anderson

426 Essex Rd

Islington

London

There appears no other details on Marrage

His will change in Jan 1918 after leave in the UK around Sept 1917

So possibly married around Sept-Oct 1917

For your interest

S.B

I love my victorian weather. 
Anyhow, I was about to give up, but I found this

Name: William T Anderson
Registration Date: Jul 1917
[Aug 1917] 
[Sep 1917] 
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Gladys M Wightman
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 219
 


It falls in the date range.
back to watching Breaker Morant, unless you need more info.

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Thanks guys - this one is new to the database

Cheers, Frev

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Mates,

Well done TE 888, always love to fill the holes.

Just for interest there maybe some thing I wrote on the Breaker around thirty years ago for my Regt magzine still on the net

I think called "the Breaker undone", mainly about the Bushvelt Carb and the Pietersberg LH

This was done before all the details came out in later years, but still holds true 
S.B

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18 minutes ago, stevebecker said:

Mates,

Well done TE 888, always love to fill the holes.

Just for interest there maybe some thing I wrote on the Breaker around thirty years ago for my Regt magzine still on the net

I think called "the Breaker undone", mainly about the Bushvelt Carb and the Pietersberg LH

This was done before all the details came out in later years, but still holds true 
S.B

Took a glance or 2 over it, very nice.
https://alh-research.tripod.com/alha/old-forum_files/000007b1.htm
shame that they shot him, he made a few good poems. 
"Of a foolish tale and fond, Till another stream be forded, And we reach the great beyond"
Regiment eh? Infantry I presume, or a Light Horse unit of sorts.
Pietersberg LH was the successor to the Bushveldt Carbineers as I recall.
Nice article in the end.
ttfn.

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Mate,

Yes there should be another article some where from the Unit Magazine of which that reply was made

But this is not the place or should I say, this is not the place or time to read off ryme or diction, ----- while waiting cruixfiction

S.B

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Mate,

What I did find interesting was the number of soldiers who were estranged from there wifes and found them again during the war?

Like this man shown as single and again all during the war, but there is a marriage document of his marriage, but dated 1909?

COTTRELL    Frank    934    Pte    02 LHR    5R att rear Dtls 7-15 tos A Sqn 10-15 WIA 8-10-15 R/foot shot at Old No 3 Post evac to (St Elmo) hosp Malta 10-15 (G) rtn 2-16 to 1 LHTR 3-16 to Dvr 2 DAC 3-16 to hosp (measles) 3-17 rtn 4-17 T/att 20Co AASC 4-18 F&B RTA 1915 leave married Elizebeth Davies in Worcester UK 10-6-09
 

Many blokes from the UK, before coming out here, seam to have left there wifes behind and claim to be single?

Why they later how claim to be married, can be for any number of reasons, but they show up from time to time.

S.B

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2 hours ago, stevebecker said:

Mate,

What I did find interesting was the number of soldiers who were estranged from there wifes and found them again during the war?

Like this man shown as single and again all during the war, but there is a marriage document of his marriage, but dated 1909?

COTTRELL    Frank    934    Pte    02 LHR    5R att rear Dtls 7-15 tos A Sqn 10-15 WIA 8-10-15 R/foot shot at Old No 3 Post evac to (St Elmo) hosp Malta 10-15 (G) rtn 2-16 to 1 LHTR 3-16 to Dvr 2 DAC 3-16 to hosp (measles) 3-17 rtn 4-17 T/att 20Co AASC 4-18 F&B RTA 1915 leave married Elizebeth Davies in Worcester UK 10-6-09
 

Many blokes from the UK, before coming out here, seam to have left there wifes behind and claim to be single?

Why they later how claim to be married, can be for any number of reasons, but they show up from time to time.

S.B

I know a good one. a 10th Battalion man! abandoned his wife and that. He was also a Captain on the North-West Frontier or something in 1898.
I touched his profile up, ever so slightly [birth 'n death]
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/162584
Stated he left his wife for the war*

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  • 1 month later...

Found one, here it is. If the image implodes, it’s one James Daniel Heggarty, 2705

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another one..

Cecil Bert Lovell LOCK

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Hi Frev,

Do you have 3701 Pte John Broskom and 5469 Pte George W Walton?

I can add detail if you don't have them as yet

Cheers    Greg

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On 20/05/2022 at 13:25, tankengine888 said:

Found one, here it is. If the image implodes, it’s one James Daniel Heggarty, 2705

another one..

Cecil Bert Lovell LOCK

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Many thanks - both of these are new to me :thumbsup:

Cheers, Frev

15 hours ago, augmauns said:

Hi Frev,

Do you have 3701 Pte John Broskom and 5469 Pte George W Walton?

I can add detail if you don't have them as yet

Cheers    Greg

Thank you Greg - I have Broskom, but Walton is a new one :thumbsup:

Cheers, Frev

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Frev,

5469 George William Walton was born in Tideswell Derbyshire & emigrated to Australia after the 1901 Census. Enlisted Nov 1915 & posted to 56 Battalion. Wounded in left thigh May 1917 & hospitalised in England. He married Caroline Blanch Iredale in Weymouth in late 1917, perhaps she was a nurse or a local lass. He was discharged in the UK and joined the Munitions Workers. He settled in Great Hucklow Derbyshire. He died in 1920 and is recorded on the Memorial in Tideswell. I'm not sure how his 1917 thigh wound resulted in his later death. (As an aside, I'm from Oz but currently reside in Tideswell.)

Greg

 

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On 21/05/2022 at 17:45, augmauns said:

Frev,

5469 George William Walton was born in Tideswell Derbyshire & emigrated to Australia after the 1901 Census. Enlisted Nov 1915 & posted to 56 Battalion. Wounded in left thigh May 1917 & hospitalised in England. He married Caroline Blanch Iredale in Weymouth in late 1917, perhaps she was a nurse or a local lass. He was discharged in the UK and joined the Munitions Workers. He settled in Great Hucklow Derbyshire. He died in 1920 and is recorded on the Memorial in Tideswell. I'm not sure how his 1917 thigh wound resulted in his later death. (As an aside, I'm from Oz but currently reside in Tideswell.)

Greg

 

Thank you, I did collect these details when I added him to the database...

Cheers, Frev

On 21/05/2022 at 18:21, augmauns said:

Frev,

I meant to add that For 3701 John Broskom I did a biography which includes a photo.

https://bpwarmemorial.wordpress.com/names/a-c/broskom/

Cheers

Greg

Thanks for sharing - great enhanced photo!

21 hours ago, tankengine888 said:

While researching a friends family tree I found

https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/300016

 

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Another new one thanks :thumbsup:

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Married nurse if applicable 

https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/98757

‘und ze other males’

https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/165111

https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/376426

my school work is finished and I have plenty of free time , so I’ll try get more.

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Frev,

Mate this may interest you

MOHR    Reginald Harry     71    Sgt    APayC    Tos APayC Egypt 7-15 to APayC AIF HQ London UK 5-16 to Wo1 9-16 prom 2/Lt 8-2-17 to APayC AIF HQ Egypt 3-17 to Assist Paymaster 6-17 shown to field Cashier ATC&DC 11-17 T/att DMC Pay Sect 12-17 to Inf Camp Suez 12-17 to DMC Pay Sect 4-18 to APayC AIF HQ London UK 5-18 to T/Capt 11-18 brought to the notice of the Secretary of State for war for Valuable Services 3-19 Awarded MBE - for his work during the war 3-6-19 married Maisie Pearson at Edmonton UK 5-9-16     N/R    Civil Servant    23    Melbourne VIC    1-6-15    RTA 10-4-20    Melbourne VIC
 

Cheers

S.B

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On 13/06/2022 at 12:52, stevebecker said:

Frev,

Mate this may interest you

MOHR    Reginald Harry     71    Sgt    APayC    Tos APayC Egypt 7-15 to APayC AIF HQ London UK 5-16 to Wo1 9-16 prom 2/Lt 8-2-17 to APayC AIF HQ Egypt 3-17 to Assist Paymaster 6-17 shown to field Cashier ATC&DC 11-17 T/att DMC Pay Sect 12-17 to Inf Camp Suez 12-17 to DMC Pay Sect 4-18 to APayC AIF HQ London UK 5-18 to T/Capt 11-18 brought to the notice of the Secretary of State for war for Valuable Services 3-19 Awarded MBE - for his work during the war 3-6-19 married Maisie Pearson at Edmonton UK 5-9-16     N/R    Civil Servant    23    Melbourne VIC    1-6-15    RTA 10-4-20    Melbourne VIC
 

Cheers

S.B

Thanks Steve

This couple did interest me, especially when I read in the marriage extract that Maisie was born in Perth, WA.  As she wasn't in any of my databases, I went looking to see if I could find out whether she was in England on war service.  Turns out the place of birth was incorrect!  She was actually born in England. 

Anyway, I've added them to the Marr O/S DB (thank you), and I'd built a file on them, so have attached it to Reg's profile on the Discovering Anzacs website - a link here if you're interested: https://discoveringanzacs.naa.gov.au/browse/person/243662

Cheers, Frev

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Mate,

Cheers, Yes I did wonder about the entry of Perth WA

Always good to see what happens

S.B

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Frev,

I know your not collecting these, but another of those Brits with a marriage before the war that ran away to Australia, that comes up during it?

PARR    William    176    Pte    1 LH Bde Trn    5R (5Co AASC) tos 5-15 rtn 5-15 (G) att WFF 2-16 to hosp (VD) 6-16 to AIF depot (4 com) UK 8-16 to 20Co AASC 2 Div Trn 11-17 married Annie Dodd at Blackburn UK 10-8-07 Ex Bearer Div B Sect/2 LHFA  DNE disch 10-12-14 MU (Boer War British Imperial LH 2 years) AKA William Johnson        Breaker / Miner    35 30    Brisbane Qld    11-12-14 20-10-14    RTA 24-1-19    Blackburn UK
 

S.B

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I'm going insane slowly, school does that to me unfortunately..
but it doesn't stop me from this!

Rosamund Brenda ATHERTON
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/73180

Harry FOSTER
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/348052

Allan Edgar ZOLLNER
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/203930

Elvy James COOPER
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/315499

One from my great great grandads unit...
Ernest Alfred LAWRENCE
https://vwma.org.au/explore/people/286190

Just out of curiousity.. were there any Australians who ran off with [rather, married] a Mademoiselle from France? I hear stuff like that, mostly from fiction like 'Diggers (1931, with Pat Hanna)' and 'ANZACs (1985, with Paul Hogan!)' with stories/representations of Australians and French 'lingering' together, but I'd genuinely like to know.. even if my knowledge comes from the media.

Might've submitted one or two of these before, but aye!

EDIT: Leonard Frederick Cato, 10th Battalion, Private, 201. Married December 1917, R.T.A October 1918 [ANZAC Leave?]

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On 17/06/2022 at 17:12, tankengine888 said:


Just out of curiousity.. were there any Australians who ran off with [rather, married] a Mademoiselle from France? I hear stuff like that, mostly from fiction like 'Diggers (1931, with Pat Hanna)' and 'ANZACs (1985, with Paul Hogan!)' with stories/representations of Australians and French 'lingering' together, but I'd genuinely like to know.. even if my knowledge comes from the media.
 

Yes, some of our Aussie men married French ladies - so far I only have 41 listed, but I've no doubt there are many more to find.

Thank you for two new additions to the DB, (ie. COOPER & CATO)

Cheers, Frev

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Just got dismissed by the bell at school, so I'm very happy.

Welp, school or music won't stop me with this marriage from September 1916 in Portsmouth.

Frederick Walter Hamelton TOOP

Do you usually like photos of the marriage? He is below 

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Edit: found another, 1719 Samuel FISH.

Double edit: 2483 George Henry Winter, married September 1916 to Evelyn Russell

Triple edit: 139 Lawrence Lockwood in November 1916 to Nellie Dunn, in London

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